Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

wsj.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 470 posts

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#181

Post by 77pt77 »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #145
77pt77 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were on Japan and plenty of people pushed for a preemptive strike on the USSR. "John von Neumann" was a very famous and influential person defending just that.

Smart guy, von Neumann. We should've listened to him.

Converted to Catholicism in his deathbed and made serious errors in his Book on QM.

Plus all that nonsense on replicators/celular automata in later life.

Not worthy of the hype as far as I'm concerned.

A world with only the USA would have been far worse.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#182

Post by gildas »

jakeogh wrote: post #172
gildas wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One doesn't preclude the other, but I have serious doubts about free speech concerns. There are moderate and extreme movements in Europe. They all express themselves freely within the law.

blink ... They outlawed silent prayer.

The UK left EU some years ago.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#183

Post by yieldcrv »

roca wrote: post #108
yieldcrv wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of developed countries like across Europe and Singapore dont have the same geopolitical history with China as the US does, as such the Sinophobia isn’t really there Many people really enjoyed Shanghai and other cities and are recipients of expansive social safety nets of China If you’re middle class and in a big city or some of the planned cities, China is fine, not without its difficulty of adjusting to, some…

Sure, just don't practice Falun Gong or be a Christian or an Uyghur.

Exhibit A

And yes, that’s correct.

Regarding Christianity, religious people have the choice of being in the registered religious practices there. Sometimes the registration requirements are incompatible woth the religion, such as a religious leader sent by the state, as opposed to someone chosen or independentally wants to lead/control people.

and unregistered religious practices are cracked down on. western society chooses to masquerade the unregistered issues as the state of religious practices in china. the unregistered population is just as large as the registered one.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#184

Post by 77pt77 »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #177
77pt77 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If power is not more or less evenly distributed then only the strongest really have rights.

This seems like a tautology. By definition someone with superior political power can grind down someone else with less, if they were maniacal enough about it, or at least negate their efforts. If they couldn’t, then they wouldn’t be considered to have superior political power.

It's more than that.

With enough power differential that won't even be a consideration.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#185

Post by somelamer567 »

russli1993 wrote: post #35
tz18 wrote: post #15

No, this is just about keeping people from defecting and taking secrets / cash with them. Many Chinese people working for state controlled companies or similar (schoolteachers were one ridiculous example I think) in super mundane jobs have their passports taken away or exit bans for "national security" reasons.

[flagged]

[flagged]

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#186

Post by __turbobrew__ »

linguae wrote: post #32
smilekzs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently 7 figures is the new 6 figures...

With inflation and the terribly high cost of housing in places like the Bay Area, “seven figures is the new six figures” is an apt observation. I make six figures, yet I can’t afford to buy a home within a reasonable commute from my job, and even finding a decent rental near my job is challenging. Seven figures is indeed the new six figures.

My colleague makes mid 6 figures in the bay area and just scrounged enough money together to buy a house from the 1950s with asbestos.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#187

Post by decremental »

neuralkoi wrote: post #159
neilv wrote: post #45

This is unfortunate, but understood. I worked in a university research spinout US-China multinational AI hardware startup, and (without getting into confidential information, but only speaking of general engineering practice) I can mention that both nations' government concerns could be barriers. And some rules can be counterproductive for the one making the rule, even from a competitive perspective -- not even turni…

When nations attack each other, often innocent people are the ones that end up suffering.

[dead]

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#188

Post by sepositus »

gildas wrote: post #157
sepositus wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I’m literally seeing the opposite. Had two people move from the EU last year due to free speech concerns.

One doesn't preclude the other, but I have serious doubts about free speech concerns. There are moderate and extreme movements in Europe. They all express themselves freely within the law.

Of course, we’re probably seeing the normal amount of movement when administrations shift. I work for a global company and have only witnessed the EU to US movement. I’m sure both are happening.

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#189

Post by hypothesis »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #186
linguae wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With inflation and the terribly high cost of housing in places like the Bay Area, “seven figures is the new six figures” is an apt observation. I make six figures, yet I can’t afford to buy a home within a reasonable commute from my job, and even finding a decent rental near my job is challenging. Seven figures is indeed the new six figures.

My colleague makes mid 6 figures in the bay area and just scrounged enough money together to buy a house from the 1950s with asbestos.

Did they pay premium for asbestos?

Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns

#190

Post by __turbobrew__ »

hypothesis wrote: post #189
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My colleague makes mid 6 figures in the bay area and just scrounged enough money together to buy a house from the 1950s with asbestos.

Did they pay premium for asbestos?

Yea, 10 years of his life.
Post reply on HN