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What did he do to you?
He’s in a gang with MElon.
China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns
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#32The sweet spot: Good enough at AI to make 7 figures. Not good enough to personally be a geopolitical pawn.
Apparently 7 figures is the new 6 figures...
With inflation and the terribly high cost of housing in places like the Bay Area, “seven figures is the new six figures” is an apt observation. I make six figures, yet I can’t afford to buy a home within a reasonable commute from my job, and even finding a decent rental near my job is challenging. Seven figures is indeed the new six figures.
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#33No, this is just about keeping people from defecting and taking secrets / cash with them. Many Chinese people working for state controlled companies or similar (schoolteachers were one ridiculous example I think) in super mundane jobs have their passports taken away or exit bans for "national security" reasons.
This would be the only answer, if it wasn't for the all ICE's history, official threats against non US individuals and how reliable the current US gov is.
This year China's advice just sounds reasonable TBH.
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#34The article leaves it until the very end to point out the risk of high-performing employees being poached, but I'd say it seems like a huge liability for China. The USA would be well-placed to identify vulnerable Chinese individuals working in AI development and offer them a large sum of money to 'defect'. It would be both a propaganda win for Trump's administration and a relatively cheap way of removing these indivi…
Back in the real world, people from China are able to do something we call "immigration."
Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns
#35No, this is just about keeping people from defecting and taking secrets / cash with them. Many Chinese people working for state controlled companies or similar (schoolteachers were one ridiculous example I think) in super mundane jobs have their passports taken away or exit bans for "national security" reasons.
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#36I wonder if given the recent "moral" loss of US, we will see a post-WW2 Soviet vs USA style defection of scientists & engineers between USA and China?
When you read the reasoning of people that defected from UK/US to soviet with nuclear secrets it's kinda hard to grasp now, but back then I can definitely understand that a mix of "the soviets are not that bad" and "are we really that good?" could've made people switch, vise-versa.
I feel like that have for the past decades mostly been a one-way street (China to US) but given the recent trends, (chiense scientist leaving US)[1] I could kinda see how some people might start to debate that question internally.
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#37Yet Apple and Google are all hiring these folks to steal our secrets
Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns
#38I wonder if given the recent "moral" loss of US, we will see a post-WW2 Soviet vs USA style defection of scientists & engineers between USA and China? When you read the reasoning of people that defected from UK/US to soviet with nuclear secrets it's kinda hard to grasp now, but back then I can definitely understand that a mix of "the soviets are not that bad" and "are we really that good?" could've made people switch…
As an EU-based employer, I'm seeing a post-WW2 soviet vs usa style defection of engineers between USA and Europe.
By the way, if anyone US-based is in this situation and wants to "defect" to an EU-job, send me a message, I can help you.
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#39meanwhile deepseek has been releasing absolute fire open-source all week long...
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#40It seems a bit strange. This isn’t like nuclear weapons researchers in the 1940s, where only a small group had the knowledge to build the bomb. There are a LOT of AI researchers out there, and it’s more a battle of resources rather than rare knowledge at this point, it seems.
But AI researchers are one of the resources currently needed! Even though there are lots of them, it's undeniable that if half of the best 1000 AI researchers in either US or China were to move to the other country it would be a massive boon to AI research in the country they moved to and have a negative impact on AI research in the country they left, even though it wouldn't destroy the scene in that country.