Really just unbelievably stupid that the US has decided to brain drain itself for no reason at all.
China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny, I’m literally seeing the opposite. Had two people move from the EU last year due to free speech concerns.
One doesn't preclude the other, but I have serious doubts about free speech concerns. There are moderate and extreme movements in Europe. They all express themselves freely within the law.
blink... They outlawed silent prayer.
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#173I wonder if given the recent "moral" loss of US, we will see a post-WW2 Soviet vs USA style defection of scientists & engineers between USA and China? When you read the reasoning of people that defected from UK/US to soviet with nuclear secrets it's kinda hard to grasp now, but back then I can definitely understand that a mix of "the soviets are not that bad" and "are we really that good?" could've made people switch…
Remember though, China is still a totalitarian dictatorship at least as bad as the USA. It's not the same situation.
I don't think we'll see born-in-the-USA Americans moving to Shenzhen anytime soon.
But a huge fraction of our workforce is immigrants who have given up their homeland and distanced themselves from their families and communities in search of opportunities here. The fact that we're driving them away now does not bode well for our future economy.
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#174This is unfortunate, but understood. I worked in a university research spinout US-China multinational AI hardware startup, and (without getting into confidential information, but only speaking of general engineering practice) I can mention that both nations' government concerns could be barriers. And some rules can be counterproductive for the one making the rule, even from a competitive perspective -- not even turni…
> I hope that this sharing will continue and increase It will continue until they pass us. They're coming from behind, and releasing models as open source essentially wipes the board of hundreds of American startups. Growth hackers and solopreneurs like @levelsio can be nipping at the heels of $300M funded companies who poured all of their points into training models, making expensive mistakes, and overpaying for com…
Most startups are not building foundation models, but using them as an input. So commoditizing their complement can actually lead to more opportunities. Similarly, web hosting which required big investments previously is now commoditized after emergence of AWS and other cloud providers.
Good point regarding movie localization. But, there is still a network effect in entertainment - people want to watch what is popular. So the top content made with lot of money can still have a big market.
Re: China tells its AI leaders to avoid U.S. travel over security concerns
#175I wonder if given the recent "moral" loss of US, we will see a post-WW2 Soviet vs USA style defection of scientists & engineers between USA and China? When you read the reasoning of people that defected from UK/US to soviet with nuclear secrets it's kinda hard to grasp now, but back then I can definitely understand that a mix of "the soviets are not that bad" and "are we really that good?" could've made people switch…
Remember though, China is still a totalitarian dictatorship at least as bad as the USA. It's not the same situation.
> It's not the same situation.
Yet. It is not even two months in, we have not seen nothing yet.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Maybe visit your nearest US consulate to see how many are trying to get into the States, despite all the ** things in recent years.
I doubt people who work in cutting edge areas want to leave, not because of national security but because China is now pumping a lot of money into the areas. Those are the people who are willing to work on a 997 schedule anyway.
And yes there are still a lot of Chinese who do want to go to US, but from other areas.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
If everyone has them they are more likely to be used over minor issues.
If power is not more or less evenly distributed then only the strongest really have rights.
This seems like a tautology. By definition someone with superior political power can grind down someone else with less, if they were maniacal enough about it, or at least negate their efforts.
If they couldn’t, then they wouldn’t be considered to have superior political power.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an EU-based employer, I'm seeing a post-WW2 soviet vs usa style defection of engineers between USA and Europe. By the way, if anyone US-based is in this situation and wants to "defect" to an EU-job, send me a message, I can help you.
Funny, I’m literally seeing the opposite. Had two people move from the EU last year due to free speech concerns.
Last year is a bit different to this year no ?
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#179The sweet spot: Good enough at AI to make 7 figures. Not good enough to personally be a geopolitical pawn.
You can’t really buy/do anything interesting until making 8 figures. What meaning could life have if you can’t even build a small apartment complex.
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Apparently 7 figures is the new 6 figures...
With inflation and the terribly high cost of housing in places like the Bay Area, “seven figures is the new six figures” is an apt observation. I make six figures, yet I can’t afford to buy a home within a reasonable commute from my job, and even finding a decent rental near my job is challenging. Seven figures is indeed the new six figures.
And to put it more concretely: directors at Google are pulling close to 7 figures in total comp. It's wild.