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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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My rough impression is that immigration and housing policy contributed significantly to his low approval ratings. Trudeau enacted a rather large increase in immigration a few years ago, and this caused a rather large increase in housing and food costs, with understandable economic repercussions, and changed Canadian attitudes over that time due to the related economic stress... For ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?…

FYI, the "large" increase in immigration was driven by the provinces, Ontario's conservative government in particular. The provinces control the number of seats in colleges and Doug's government froze domestic tuition rates, pushing colleges to turn to international students. Now, the province also approved almost every request for international students. The Feds can't step in sad say "no". The immigration problem i…

The Feds also lifted the caps for international students to work full-time hours off-campus ("temporarily" but repeatedly extended), among other things.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/ne...

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Hacker News is pretty much far right when it comes to politics. Heck the moderators refused to allow any criticism of the monarchy when the queen died but allowed it when Jimmy Carter died.

Criticizing someone during their funeral is in pretty poor taste regardless of your political leanings.

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I was a resident of downtown Ottawa during this period. It was bad. We had a young kid and didn't feel even safe walking her to a park, because the route crossed over convoy lines and there were all sorts of stories of harassment and assaults. We didn't even experience the worst of it; lots of people dealt with truck horns blaring 24/7, but at least our street at least was kept clear as an emergency route. We put up…

Stories of harassment and assaults? Provide one source for any assault.

Glad you asked.

* Pushing a reporter live on air: https://x.com/mylenecrete/status/1494874304814751744

* Beating a counter-protestor on camera: https://x.com/timabray/status/1488231660260839430?t=Bx4fGVxR...

* Attacking a shop employee for masking up on their way to work: https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=23006638534070...

* Smashing windows of a business with a Pride flag: https://imgur.com/a/80bmPQ8

* Trying to handcuff shut the doors of an apartment building: https://x.com/gray_mackenzie/status/1492705868697198593

* Encouraging harassment of the lawyer leading the class action lawsuit against them: https://www.facebook.com/groups/217129079397701/permalink/62...

* Threatening public officials: https://www.ottawapolice.ca/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=7...

* Spamming emergency services so they could not be used: https://x.com/OttawaPolice/status/1491788988654383115

* Harassing children at an elementary school: https://pressprogress.ca/elementary-school-students-and-teac...

* Bomb threats against a children's hospital: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/cheo-targeted-by-bomb-threat-monda...

* Pelting ambulances with rocks: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ambulances-pelted-...

These are just the things that were recorded, reported on, and archived with the links functioning three years later. Scroll up and you can read about what many of us saw in person. And yes, there's more where that came from. But it's much better to read from people who live in Ottawa and want to share their experiences: https://www.opc-cpo.ca/

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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It's a low effort comment that doesn't add anything of value.

Good will is of value.

PG covered this point way back at the start of HN: Empty comments can be ok if they're positive. There's nothing wrong with submitting a comment saying just "Thanks." What we especially discourage are comments that are empty and negative—comments that are mere name-calling.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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It may have been an emergency in the first days with the honking. That largely stopped after a week or so. They switched to camping in front of the parliament with bouncy castles etc. The bridge that was occupied in another province was cleared. I'm really not under the impression that at the time they went in there was any emergency. It was ugly: Peaceful unarmed protesters in pedestrian zones with no trucks in sigh…

yea if you ignore the public shitting, public pissing, drunkenness, the harassment of locals, then yea, it was only bouncy castles, or stuff like this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42613957

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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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He is going to stay until a new leader is chosen by the Liberal Party of Canada.

Why not hand over power immediately to the next person in line? Doesn't preclude the party choosing someone else when they get around to it.

There is no such thing as a "vice-PM" in Canada. There is no "next person in line", and parties choose leaders more or less independently of the election cycle, according to the party's needs.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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I have migrated from Canada to the USA and my metrics for wealth, ease of mind, actually working while at work, outgoingness, etc instantly improved. I don't plan on ever going back. I feel chagrin at seeing Canada fail. I'm glad to see Justin Trudeau pressured out, I know there won't be meaningful change associated with the decision, but I have hope.

I'm a Canadian living in the US as well. I definitely make more and am able to save more here. I have better job opportunities and also more interesting work. Where I am the weather is also much better. If money wasn't an issue I'd move back to Canada in an instant (but maybe my view of Canada is outdated, been away for > 10 years). Why? - Lower wealth inequality - Safer, with lower crime rates, especially violent cr…

While Canadian wealth inequality is still not as bad as the US, it has gotten significantly worse in recent years as a housing crisis has created a deep split between haves and have-nots. Personally, I think this more than anything else is responsible for the backlash against Trudeau, especially among young people who otherwise would typically be left-leaning.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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It's definitely not 'overwhelmingly popular,' but polling shows majority support (66%) from Canadians for use of the Emergencies Act at the time of the protest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergencies_Act#Opinion_pollin...

Upon digging, Wikipedia most prominently cites secondary sources here. The first of which is linked to a group called "Maru Group", whose website is dysfunctional. They are owned by Stagwell Marketing, whose CEO, Mark Penn, is directly linked to the US and Canadian Government, and more specifically to companies which were directly hurt by the trucking protest. Maru Group's sampling is tiny, they asked only 1500 peopl…

That scares me about the quality of wikipedia stats on other subjects.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Also record low unemployment. 4.9% in 2022 set records. For comparison Canada’s average unemployment rate is 7.5% over the last 50 years. https://www.cicnews.com/2022/07/canadas-unemployment-rate-dr...

The irony is that it was industry (especially small business) freaking out about that low unemployment rate and the pressure it was putting on wages that led to the bulk of Trudeau's demise. They went crazy with the TFW program, LMIA, and immigration generally in order to reduce inflation. But this is not the kind of inflation that ordinary Canadians think of when we think of inflation -- grocery prices, etc. It's th…

It's almost as if raising the minimum wage is reflected as wage inflation when you're already in a condition where a large fraction of workers are near the wage floor. Adding labour supply isn't going to do anything about that unless it's biased towards higher skill.

(But honestly, I'd say a lot of these businesses deserve to fail if they can't afford to pay minimum wage workers.)

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Hacker News is pretty much far right when it comes to politics. Heck the moderators refused to allow any criticism of the monarchy when the queen died but allowed it when Jimmy Carter died.

Criticizing someone during their funeral is in pretty poor taste regardless of your political leanings.

They refused any criticism of the institution itself in addition to the person. But for carter criticism of him and his politics were fair game.
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