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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by indy »

nsavage wrote: post #209
csense wrote: post #34

Patio11 has some good coverage of Trudeau's handling of the trucker protest against the government's handling of COVID-19 [1]. Whatever you think of the truckers' position or protest tactics, any punishment for their actions ought to go through the laws and court system. Trudeau instead essentially told the banking system "You can't do business with those people, they're terrorists." Patio11's words of what happened…

I live in Ottawa and lived here during the convoy. Happy to answer any questions as an actual resident from anyone about my experience.

What were the general public's opinion of the protests?

Also how 'dangerous' was the convoy perceived to be?

Were the actions of the Government deemed to be overreach?

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Post by TriangleEdge »

I have migrated from Canada to the USA and my metrics for wealth, ease of mind, actually working while at work, outgoingness, etc instantly improved. I don't plan on ever going back. I feel chagrin at seeing Canada fail. I'm glad to see Justin Trudeau pressured out, I know there won't be meaningful change associated with the decision, but I have hope.

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Post by glitchc »

srid wrote: post #208
papercrane wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Canadian dollar has collapsed VS the USD. The CAD is sitting at about $0.70 USD right now, which isn't really outside of it's typical range, and not really unexpected given the difference in interest rate now between Canadian & US interest rates. If you look at historical prices it looks more like business-as-usual, the CAD usually bounces between 0.70-0.80 USD.

CAD was actually on parity with USD between 2007-2012.

That's actually bad for the economy. Canadian companies benefit from the lower dollar as goods are often sold in USD, but wages are paid in CAD. 0.75 to 0.8 is the historical benchmark for the exchange rate.

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Post by johnny_canuck »

mkipper wrote: post #154
nemo44x wrote: post #54

Is Canada better today then when he started as PM? I struggle to agree that it is. Housing is as bad as it has ever been and the immigration decisions seem to have been so careless that even people that would agree with immigration as a general principal are horrified by it by and large. The Canadian dollar has collapsed VS the USD. I guess it always ends bad if you stick around long enough.

> The Canadian dollar has collapsed VS the USD This might be splitting hairs, but I think this is more about the strength of USD than the weakness of CAD. I don't know that you can say CAD has "collapsed" when every other major currency has seen a similar (or worse) drop compared to USD over the last 10 years.

It always is this. Same reason the CAD was at parity during the financial crisis.

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Post by lbrito »

whalesalad wrote: post #199
0xbadc0de5 wrote: post #115

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Is there an ELI5 that explains all of this from a-z? As an outsider I can't help but think people are being hyperbolic about it.

Mostly partisan propaganda. The "Canada is broken" slogan is by no means organic; it is a carefully executed propaganda piece. The conservative leader is very good with punch lines and communication in general (and is maybe a bit too proud of it - e.g. he has a "Justinflation" plaque in his office; a term that he coined).

There are problems and people want them fixed. That is always the case. In a short couple of years Canada will suddenly not be broken anymore, as everyone will forget the slogan. Then in a few more years the next opposition will decry how awful things are, etc. It is all very predictable and clear.

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Post by busterarm »

hnthrowaway6543 wrote: post #218
busterarm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I mean he has a history of just burying his head in the sand with every controversy and eventually they all went away after a short time. The strategy clearly worked for him until it didn't.

very true. love him or hate him, Trudeau deserves credit for surviving not just sexual assault allegations, but also the infamous blackface/brownface pictures[0], all during the height of #MeToo and leftist focus on identity politics. he wisely identified that the correct response was no response, except for notably stating that the sexual assault accuser simply "experienced their encounter differently"[1]. a lesser…

Don't leave out the SNC-Lavalin ethics breaches!

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

votepaunchy wrote: post #164
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Electoral reforms are only proposed by those who think they'll benefit from them There is a long history of this not being true, particularly by outgoing leaders. See, for example, how Nixon almost abolished the electoral college.

Almost? The proposed amendment that passed the House but failed in the Senate? If 3/4 of the states were going to pass an amendment then why wouldn't 2/3 call for a convention of the states?

> proposed amendment that passed the House but failed in the Senate

Yes. Read the history of its support. If Nixon’s SCOTUS pick hadn’t been tanked the amendment would have likely passed.

> If 3/4 of the states were going to pass an amendment then why wouldn't 2/3 call for a convention of the states?

One of these is more drastic than the other.

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Post by codethief »

jamie_ca wrote: post #236
csense wrote: post #34

Patio11 has some good coverage of Trudeau's handling of the trucker protest against the government's handling of COVID-19 [1]. Whatever you think of the truckers' position or protest tactics, any punishment for their actions ought to go through the laws and court system. Trudeau instead essentially told the banking system "You can't do business with those people, they're terrorists." Patio11's words of what happened…

Offtopic to politics, but browsers these days support arbitrary text anchors. docs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/URI/Fragment/Te... your link: https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/debanking-and-debunki...

Wow, TIL. Looks like a fairly recent feature, though (at least in certain browsers).

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Post by krashidov »

mlekoszek wrote: post #23
newfocogi wrote: post #9

I hadn't heard that this was likely to happen. Any Canadians here able to weigh on whether this was expected or is a normal procedure for your elected officials?

Generally, governments in Canada are voted out in roughly 9-year intervals. Trudeau took office in 2015, so nothing unusual there. Moreover, Trudeau is exiting with approval ratings just a percent below his predecessor, Stephen Harper (22% vs. 23%, respectively). So, in a wider sense, this is not so unusual. But we're facing a trade war with the States and less-than-joking threats of annexation, so it's a bad moment…

> and less-than-joking threats of annexation

If Poilievre gets elected, will he willingly join the USA? It seems that the world is more and more aligned by political spectrum rather than national allegiance.

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