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The Police Chief lost his job over it. What other consequences would you think appropriate?

Investigations and penalties for everyone up the chain, starting with the frontline officers who were on the ground refusing to issue tickets. If an officer chooses to not do their job over their political beliefs they do not belong on the force.

Absolutely. I'm a paramedic. I will be in front of a licensing hearing defending why should be allowed to continue as a paramedic to the DOH if I refuse to treat a patient because of politics/beliefs, as an EMS provider.

Depending on the severity, I can even be facing administrative charges of patient abandonment under my state's Administrative Code for standards of care for providers.

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>The Canada I grew up with [...] is completely shattered. What happened?

One could endlessly go on about the economy/COL, immigration, crumbling healthcare, housing crisis, far-left ideology going mainstream, etc. But I could frame it much simpler than that - Canada, at least in cities of modest sizes and up, is rapidly transitioning from a high-trust to a low-trust society. An anecdote: my sister is more than 10 years younger than me, she's currently attending the same university as I di…

This anecdote could be explained by something as simple as her forgetting to lock her bike consistently, locking it incorrectly, using poor locks, etc.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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This is the crux of the issue honestly. Trudeau should have had the humility to read the writing on the wall in the fall, and stepped down so we could have a stable government to deal with the incoming US administration and give his party a fighting chance next election. He could have rested on his laurels knowing history would likely forget his shortcomings & scandals, and be remembered as the prime minister who got…

Here's the primary problem with your argument: the current front-runner to win the next election is the Conservative Party of Canada, with Pierre Poilievre as leader, and pretty much a shoo-in for the next Prime Minister. Poilievre is a career politician who's only professional experience has been as a politician, has no work history to speak of (don't take my word for it, his wikipedia entry details only a job as a…

shoo-in*

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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America is, especially since 2021 but nobody wants to believe it.

Depends who you are, I guess. If you’re a young person who is not financially stable enough to form a family because of high housing prices, then you would disagree. If you’re a relatively well-off person with assets like real estate and equities, then you’re quite happy. It’s all a matter of perspective. I myself am doing quite well financially, but I am still quite unhappy with the current situation because of the…

Take that problem in the states an multiply it by 3x in Canada.

Lower Income, High Prices, Less Options.

I'm in a similar position that I'm personally doing okay but almost everyone I grew up with has had to either leave Canada for the US, had to live with their parents into their 30s or more to very remote / rural areas to afford life.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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I'm having trouble learning anything from this stream of disconnected, time-sorted tweetlike objects. I'm posting this on the off chance that a better article exists, and someone can point me to it. I assume it's too early for that though.

The goal isn't to learn, it's to be entertained

the goal isn't even to entertain. It is to spend time on a page. It doesn't matter if you are frustrated, angry, or confused. just keep scrolling

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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If people can't understand why this is happening, understand that Trudeau has been in power for 9 years and basically everything is worse than when he started. And if you want to say, "Blah blah it's happening in other countries", don't bother. We're becoming poorer when compared to all our peer countries.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-gdp-per-capita-rich-...

https://economics.td.com/ca-productivity-bad-to-worse

https://financialpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeau-legacy-coul...

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Canadian here. It's certainly not normal. News broke yesterday that this was coming. The opposition kept tabling no confidence votes and trying to get an early election called... and Trudeau's approval rating is so low that it might even be the lowest of any Prime Minister in history (though I don't know so if someone does by all means fact check that). However, our upcoming election is this year. It certainly does n…

What does "prorogued" do here? Does it prevent a no-confidence vote? And, what would a no-confidence vote do?

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Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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I never voted for Justin Trudeau and don't like him, but despite all the angry rhetoric right now in the long term I think he will be considered by history to be one of the better Canadian PMs. Amongst the Canadian PMs I've experienced, Chretien, Martin, Harper, Trudeau made the most impactful and positive policy changes (eg. legal cannabis, childcare) while navigating the country through the challenges of covid and…

Also record low unemployment. 4.9% in 2022 set records. For comparison Canada’s average unemployment rate is 7.5% over the last 50 years.

https://www.cicnews.com/2022/07/canadas-unemployment-rate-dr...

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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Not being a part of the states is our national identity. It’s just very fringe minority who dabbles with the idea of joining the USA.

I think the Overton window has become much easier to slide around with social media influence campaigns. If someone powerful wants something -- even if it's against everyone else's interests -- it's now much easier for them to drum up popular support for it through underhanded tactics. Remember that Brexit started as a joke.

Brexit wasnt a joke, it was the culmination of decades of anti-EU sentiment in the UK.

Re: Justin Trudeau promises to resign as PM

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One could endlessly go on about the economy/COL, immigration, crumbling healthcare, housing crisis, far-left ideology going mainstream, etc. But I could frame it much simpler than that - Canada, at least in cities of modest sizes and up, is rapidly transitioning from a high-trust to a low-trust society. An anecdote: my sister is more than 10 years younger than me, she's currently attending the same university as I di…

> One could endlessly go on... Yet, apparently one will instead sidestep the discussion entirely. Frankly the more you've tried to answer the question the less you actually answer it... I don't see how "rapidly transitioning from a high-trust to a low-trust society" or "she's got 2 bikes stolen ... this would be inconceivable to me during my time living in the same town" reflect failures in Canadian government at all…

Technology isn’t the issue

Mass immigration and increasing wealth disparity are much more relevant.

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