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macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by OrderlyTiamat »

deaddodo wrote: post #115
submeta wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe. But what are the options? Windows? Not really. Linux/Debian/Ubuntu is great, in theory, but it lacks tools: Acorn, Keyboard Maestro, OnniGraffle, Alfred App, MS Office, MS Teams, and a dozen more. Plus Apple silicon. I test LLMs locally.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

> > I test LLMs locally.

> LLMs run fine on Linux, but you will be limited to about 16GB on the VRAM side.

That'll probably be a dealbreaker.

> Acorn

GIMP

Don't get me wrong, I am still gratefully using GIMP, it's a fine tool for what it is and I am happy with it. But from a "meet people where they are" perspective, it's absurd to tell someone who uses tools like Photoshop that GIMP is a viable alternative as it is right now.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by Pikamander2 »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #81
alwayslikethis wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the worst things about the move to smartphones is the inability to make full backups. I don't understand. It's my own device, all the data belongs to me, and I should be able to back it up whenever I want.

Even worse, now some apps are not allowing screenshots. That's bullshit, it's my phone, I should be able to screenshot whatever the hell I want.

The wildest one I've seen is Chrome on Android not allowing screenshots in Incognito mode. I'm struggling to understand the rationale there except maybe to prevent people from accidentally screenshotting sensitive stuff like porn or domestic violence resources? Either way, it's really not something the app should have control over.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by userbinator »

alwayslikethis wrote: post #37
iamnotsure wrote: post #24

managed software, managed hardware, managed people

One of the worst things about the move to smartphones is the inability to make full backups. I don't understand. It's my own device, all the data belongs to me, and I should be able to back it up whenever I want.

It's my own device

That's what you think, but based on the actions of the companies doing this stuff, clearly they don't and strongly want you to be happy with owning nothing.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by quijoteuniv »

Mac use to be for tinkerers, that is not the case anymore, I loved to tinker with them 10 years ago, it was the only (reliable) platform you could work with sound. You bought a machine that would run years, people in studio would run many years with them, then they started to close it down more and more. I stopped working with sound but my old machine almost 20 years old still runs, out of tinkering with it i got into Linux, now i work in operations with k8s, creative, complex beatiful engineering

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by IshKebab »

deaddodo wrote: post #160
tsimionescu wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost none of the software you mentioned is a realistic, fully featured, profesionally-usbale alternative to the software that doesn't run on Linux. So, overall, Linux can't be an alternative to the Mac and/or Windows for anyone who relies on these tools.

That's an opinion.

A realistic opinion.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by T4iga »

kstenerud wrote: post #145
submeta wrote: post #100

This is bad. - Just recently I broke my system badly. So I decided to erase my system and re-setup from time machine. After several unsuccessful attemts I realized that my Time Machine backup (1.45 tb) exceeded my ssd capacity (1 tb). I did research, and learned not to prune my Time Machine backups. As that may corrupt it. So after several days and failed attempts to restore from time machine and after some research…

I've really been noticing how Apple software quality has been on a slow decline since Snow Leopard. I look at some of their older source code and it's a joy to read! Nowadays, my daily travails with restarting Xcode multiple times a day to work around bugs (package blahblah is not available) have really worn thin (I mean, Xcode has always had problems, but not THIS bad). Add to that the fact that the "system data" on…

I have had a similar experience after i shared my MacBook with my girlfriend for a while. Turned out even after uninstalling her cloud file sharing software thing, there were still over 100GB of cached files left on disk. MacOS didn't make the obvious identify or find in the storage overview.

I ended up finding it through a disk space visualizer that showed a large folder (the stolen 100GB) in some cache directory. I can highly recommend trying that out. MacOS' inbuilt tools are in my experience inadequate to find what is stealing your disk space (on top of applications being unable to clean up after themselves).

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by chris_wot »

therein wrote: post #109
sleepybrett wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not. I'm explaining that you might have faulty hardware or potentially some software that does not love hdmi losing signal. I have a primary monitor hooked up via tb->dp and a secondary plugged into the hdmi port. When I stop working and swap to my personal computer I often shut off the secondary monitor all together and then change the input of my primary monitor. It is not kernel panicing.

Not trolling, it panics for me. It came with 15.1.1. Let me see if I have a photo of the panic. If I'll post the backtrace. https://imgur.com/ycyVIzF

Oh man… we have the same model CalDigit at work and it doesn’t panic but it does give refresh issues on the second screen.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by not_a_shill »

deaddodo wrote: post #115
submeta wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe. But what are the options? Windows? Not really. Linux/Debian/Ubuntu is great, in theory, but it lacks tools: Acorn, Keyboard Maestro, OnniGraffle, Alfred App, MS Office, MS Teams, and a dozen more. Plus Apple silicon. I test LLMs locally.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

Libreoffice isn't the alternative, office on web is. And even that is still gimped compared to Windows Excel. (Which is the true killer app for professional use of Windows in general)
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