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At least now I can choose who to spy on me.
You mean that now you can choose who to give your data to for free. Everyone is spying on you.
No, instead of Five Eyes I’ve only One Eye on me.
Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
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Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does this hurt the US?
that's a good question, this hurts the US by enabling China to decouple itself from the US. Thus Once they make their own OS and have apps joining in their own app store, they can expand their markets and compete on OS. It may seem ridiculous now, but in 10 years it will be a serious OS and you can have all the apps in a .apk file that exist on android already working on their OS. Everytime the US introduces a restri…
All these things were gonna happen anyway. Or if not these things then China would aim to dominate in some other field. You think the capital allocated to these projects would otherwise sit idle?
I don’t see any problems here
1. After China made a turn toward authoritarianism with Xi, decoupling - especially on the telecom side - is a hard requirement. They are objectively a huge national security risk. 2. Competition is healthy. I don’t see any problems with having another space race or another OS competing on the international arena. 3. I’m not too worried about China threatening USA in the long run anyway. USA still attracts the best talent from all over the world, many of which end up settling there long term. (I’m not American, so saying this as an outsider). You cannot become a citizen in China, and that’s unlikely to change in an ultra-nationalist authoritarian leadership. There’s so many factors (ultra-nationalism, changing demographics, less foreign investments, capital flight, overhead of doing everything themselves) that is slowly eroding Chinas economy.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin Not just that, China has super apps that integrate everything from payments, food delivery, taxi, social media... To single application. Integrating this app directly into OS as a launcher (or shell) kind of makes sense.
> China has super apps that integrate everything from payments, food delivery, taxi, social media... To single application. I mean, you're simply describing an operating system. The west builds this as an operating system. China builds it as an app. The rise of the Chinese super-apps is literally just a response to the reality that the West, especially Apple, forces everyone they work with to think inside the App box…
Part of the motivation for Musk's rebranding of the Great Banality Laser as X is that he wants to turn it into a sort of super-app with payments, shopping, etc.
That and he just has a kooky fascination with the letter X.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#114Notably, this is a microkernel, multiserver operating system[0]. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT
I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia... Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.
Certainly Fuchsia failed on the brand front with so many people misspelling it as Fuscia (:
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
that's a good question, this hurts the US by enabling China to decouple itself from the US. Thus Once they make their own OS and have apps joining in their own app store, they can expand their markets and compete on OS. It may seem ridiculous now, but in 10 years it will be a serious OS and you can have all the apps in a .apk file that exist on android already working on their OS. Everytime the US introduces a restri…
This could be a ten year old post about Nordstream with a little tweaking. Autocracies will pursue their goals regardless of "coupling", China is not going to be influenced by whether the Google Play Store is available.
It may accelerate their decisions though.
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#116>Huawei hopes to bring its OS to PCs, too. Last month the chair of the Chinese giant's consumer business group, Yu Chengdong, revealed it would no longer run Windows on its future machines, but Harmony OS instead That is very interesting. And considering that Harmony OS is not based on Android and Linux, I would be curious to see it running on a PC.
Seems similar to (though a shortcut version of) Apple sharing mobile and desktop hardware/software tech.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia... Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.
Certainly Fuchsia failed on the brand front with so many people misspelling it as Fuscia (:
That should have been obvious from the get go, no chance most people are going to spell that correctly
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia... Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.
Certainly Fuchsia failed on the brand front with so many people misspelling it as Fuscia (:
It's more of an internal name like Darwin/XNU is for Apple.
They could of just made it a new version of Android.
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#119Is it a new Linux distro (cool) or just another android fork that... can't run android apps (lame)?
Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch
#120The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.
The article explicitly cites it in the second last paragraph. It was a bit more than political pressure, though: Huawei was added to the entity list and it would be a crime for US companies or citizens to do business with them.
I may be misremembering but I thought Google kicked them out even before, primarily because Huawei wanted to have only Huawei services and not Google services, which goes against Google’s terms.