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Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

exactly how we can read the MacOS, Windows and all the Google apps code that are bundled with virtually every Android phone, right?

If you live in the west and criticise your government, nothing happens. If you live in China and criticise your government, even in private, you can go missing or end up in a camp

This is very over simplified and glossing over a huge amount of political repression that happens in the west just because it's more sophisticated. Don't fool yourself into thinking you're free because you're not in China. You would realize this the second you go against any powerful interests

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #17

> Huawei did try to export the last version of the OS – and even offered assistance to developers who coded for the platform and targeted offshore markets – without success. I wonder if they really tried or if they just suck too much. I thought about getting invested into the eco-system. The technical details of NEXT are quite interesting; however, the on-boarding is literal garbage. I still, to this day, can't sign…

Huawei or other Chinese companies are not particularly good at developer support. Maybe it's cultural or large corp or both. I have heard some bad stories about Ali cloud too. They are usable, but not particularly easy to use.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #27

The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.

I own a Huawei tablet and yes there is no Play Store. The Huawei app store also will link you to several third party sketchy apk stores.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

#37

I would be more interested in a OpenHarmony Desktop version. If it picks up on mainland and Asia in general it would be a proper 3rd desktop OS.

3rd desktop os? There are many more than 2 desktop oss already, am I misunderstanding you?

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #14

Also before they have something that's code was readable and people can see what the hell backdoors they have put. Now it's home run for surveillance

At least now I can choose who to spy on me.

You mean that now you can choose who to give your data to for free.

Everyone is spying on you.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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>Unlike previous iterations of HarmonyOS, HarmonyOS NEXT no longer supports Android apps. That's kind of big, HarmonyOS would not be just another Android flavor anymore. > we're sorry to report that Huawei told us it currently has no plans to offer Harmony OS NEXT outside of China That's to be expected. If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin, the apps are not usable.

> If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin Not just that, China has super apps that integrate everything from payments, food delivery, taxi, social media... To single application. Integrating this app directly into OS as a launcher (or shell) kind of makes sense.

Are you sure those everything aren't just bunch of third party janky WebViews, only relevant because of private chat app account moat?

("third party" and "private" parts are relevant, IMO, otherwise Twitter superapp-ification had happened years ago)

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #27

The article doesn't mention but it seems pretty relevant, Google kicked them from having the Play store etc on their phones a little while back as a result of political pressure so there's really no reason for them to care about Android any more.

The article explicitly cites it in the second last paragraph. It was a bit more than political pressure, though: Huawei was added to the entity list and it would be a crime for US companies or citizens to do business with them.
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