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Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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The os seems to be kind of open source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenHarmony

From my understanding OpenHarmony is different from Harmony NEXT. The later is proprietary.

I believe Harmony NEXT is built on top of OpenHarmony?

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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> Huawei did try to export the last version of the OS – and even offered assistance to developers who coded for the platform and targeted offshore markets – without success. I wonder if they really tried or if they just suck too much. I thought about getting invested into the eco-system. The technical details of NEXT are quite interesting; however, the on-boarding is literal garbage. I still, to this day, can't sign…

You can really see Huawei’s roots as a telecom vendor here.

Their hardware, firmware, and core parts of the software are nearly flawless, at least compared to Apple/Google in 2024, but the moment you need something beyond the shipped product it becomes a hoop jumping exercise. And the documentation is much worse.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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>Unlike previous iterations of HarmonyOS, HarmonyOS NEXT no longer supports Android apps. That's kind of big, HarmonyOS would not be just another Android flavor anymore. > we're sorry to report that Huawei told us it currently has no plans to offer Harmony OS NEXT outside of China That's to be expected. If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin, the apps are not usable.

> If you live outside of China and don't know Mandarin Not just that, China has super apps that integrate everything from payments, food delivery, taxi, social media... To single application. Integrating this app directly into OS as a launcher (or shell) kind of makes sense.

Sounds nice at first until you look to see what places these apps are also linked too in mainland China.

But not that it matters in the end considering the chaos the US has where eventually everyone gets to see what we do on our cells to. It is just a matter of speed, China is probably just more efficient.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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Notably, this is a microkernel, multiserver operating system[0]. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT

I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia...

Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

#26

Also before they have something that's code was readable and people can see what the hell backdoors they have put. Now it's home run for surveillance

exactly how we can read the MacOS, Windows and all the Google apps code that are bundled with virtually every Android phone, right?

If you live in the west and criticise your government, nothing happens. If you live in China and criticise your government, even in private, you can go missing or end up in a camp

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #17

> Huawei did try to export the last version of the OS – and even offered assistance to developers who coded for the platform and targeted offshore markets – without success. I wonder if they really tried or if they just suck too much. I thought about getting invested into the eco-system. The technical details of NEXT are quite interesting; however, the on-boarding is literal garbage. I still, to this day, can't sign…

You can really see Huawei’s roots as a telecom vendor here. Their hardware, firmware, and core parts of the software are nearly flawless, at least compared to Apple/Google in 2024, but the moment you need something beyond the shipped product it becomes a hoop jumping exercise. And the documentation is much worse.

Indeed. I don't have much technical expertise in the kernel/OS space, but I wouldn't be surprised if the NEXT OS is better than Linux. On the other hand, their dev experience is akin to opening a router paper manual. There is an opportunity here but I am not sure how it can be unlocked.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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Notably, this is a microkernel, multiserver operating system[0]. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT

I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia... Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.

Honestly, I think Fuchsia was fine, there's just no reason to deploy it yet.

Re: Huawei makes divorce from Android official with HarmonyOS NEXT launch

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post #2

Notably, this is a microkernel, multiserver operating system[0]. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS_NEXT

I find it interesting how Huawei was able to make a nearly brand new microkernel operating system in a short amount of time, meanwhile Google with Fuchsia... Despite it being Huawei, I am interested to see how well the OS plans out.

Fuchsia was a success for its developers: they created something new and shiny at Google, which would allow them to receive their promotion.

HarmonyOS NEXT is probably a lot more existential for Huawei.

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