I'd be really interested to run AI detectors on essays from years before the ChatGPT era, just to see if anything gets flagged.
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Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
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#102Ycombinator has funded at least one company in this space: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/nuanced-inc It seems like a long term loosing proposition.
Nothing is a losing proposition if you can convince investors for long enough.
Re: Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
#103The challenging thing is, cheating students also say they're being falsely accused. Tough times in academia right now. Cheating became free, simple, and ubiquitous overnight. Cheating services built on top of ChatGPT advertise to college students; Chrome extensions exist that just solve your homework for you.
I don’t know how to break this to you, but cheating was always free, simple, and ubiquitous. Sure, ChatGPT wouldn’t write your paper; but your buddy who needed his math problem solved would. Or find a paper on countless sites on the Internet.
That wasn't free; people would charge money to write essays, and essays found online would be detected as such.
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#104As an engineering major who was forced to take an English class, I will say that on many occasions I purposely made my writing worse, in order to prevent suspicion of AI use.
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#105New CAPTCHA idea: "Write a 200-word essay about birds".
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#106Are any students coming up with a process to prove their innocents when they get falsely accused? If I was still in school I would write my docs in a Google Doc which provides the edit history. I could potentially also record video of me typing the entire document as well or screen recording my screen.
All of that still wouldn't prove that you didn't use any sorta LLM to get it done. The professor could just claim you used ChatGPT on your phone and typed the thing in, then changed it up a bit.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is beyond silly. Unless students go naked they can have a weapon in a pocket.
The point was that if the laptop is taken out and doesn’t go through the scanner, but the rest of the student has to go through the scanner, then the laptop is a great hiding place. Presumably that scanner can at least beep at a pocket knife.
Oh, indeed!
But if they are not otherwise checked it would be quite useless.
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#108My daughter was accused of turning in an essay written by AI because the school software at her online school said so. Her mom watched her write the essay. I thought it was common knowledge that it was impossible to tell whether text was generated by AI. Evidently, the software vendors are either ignorant or are lying, and school administrators are believing them.
>I thought it was common knowledge that it was impossible to tell whether text was generated by AI. Anyone who's been around AI generated content for more than five minutes can tell you what's legitimate and what isn't. For example this: https://www.maersk.com/logistics-explained/transportation-an... is obviously an AI article.
Obviously false, as LLMs parrot what they're trained on. Not that hard to get them to regurgitate Shakespeare or what have you.
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#109My kids’ school added a new weapons scanner as kids walk in the door. It’s powered by “AI.” They trust the AI quite a bit. However, the AI identifies the school issued Lenovo laptops as weapons. So every kid was flagged. Rather than stopping using such a stupid tool, they just have the kids remove their laptops before going through the scanner. I expect not smart enough people are buying “AI” products and trusting th…
> I expect not smart enough people are buying “AI” products and trusting them to do the things they want them to do, but don’t work.
People are willing to believe almost anything as long as it makes their lives a little more convenient.
Re: Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
#110My kids’ school added a new weapons scanner as kids walk in the door. It’s powered by “AI.” They trust the AI quite a bit. However, the AI identifies the school issued Lenovo laptops as weapons. So every kid was flagged. Rather than stopping using such a stupid tool, they just have the kids remove their laptops before going through the scanner. I expect not smart enough people are buying “AI” products and trusting th…
I wonder if it's batteries, they look quite close to explosives on a variety of scanning tools. In fact, both chemically store and release energy but on extremely different timescales.