Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
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#2A student I know texted me, the ai detector kept falsely flagging his work. “This is how I write!” I gave him some tips to sound less like ai which is funny because we train ai with rlhf to sound more and more like humans.
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#3My daughter’s 7th grade work is 80% flagged as AI. She is a very good writer, it’s interesting to see how poorly this will go.
Obviously we will go back to in class writing.
Re: Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
#4convergence will occur, measurable by increasing frequency of false positives output by detection.
Re: Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
#5The challenging thing is, cheating students also say they're being falsely accused. Tough times in academia right now. Cheating became free, simple, and ubiquitous overnight. Cheating services built on top of ChatGPT advertise to college students; Chrome extensions exist that just solve your homework for you.
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#6My daughter’s 7th grade work is 80% flagged as AI. She is a very good writer, it’s interesting to see how poorly this will go. Obviously we will go back to in class writing.
She should run it through ai to rewrite in a way so another ai doesn't detect it was written by ai.
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#7This has nothing to do with AI, but rather about proof. If a teacher said to a student you cheated and the student disputes it. Then in front of the dean or whatever the teacher can produce no proof of course the student would be absolved. Why is some random tool (AI or not) saying they cheated without proof suddenly taken as truth?
Re: Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
#8This has nothing to do with AI, but rather about proof. If a teacher said to a student you cheated and the student disputes it. Then in front of the dean or whatever the teacher can produce no proof of course the student would be absolved. Why is some random tool (AI or not) saying they cheated without proof suddenly taken as truth?
The AI tool report shown to the dean with "85% match" Will be used as "proof".
If you want more proof, then you can take the essay, give it to chatGPT and say, "Please give me a report showing how this essay is written to en by AI."
People treat AI like it's an omniscient god.
Re: Do AI detectors work? Students face false cheating accusations
#9This has nothing to do with AI, but rather about proof. If a teacher said to a student you cheated and the student disputes it. Then in front of the dean or whatever the teacher can produce no proof of course the student would be absolved. Why is some random tool (AI or not) saying they cheated without proof suddenly taken as truth?
> the teacher can produce no proof
For an assignment completed at home, on a student's device using software of a student's choosing, there can essentially be no proof. If the situation you describe becomes common, it might make sense for a school to invest into a web-based text editor that capture keystrokes and user state and requiring students use that for at-home text-based assignments.
That or eliminating take-home writing assignments--we had plenty of in-class writing when I went to school.
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#10In some cases students have fought such accusations by showing their professor the tool flags the professor's work.
Don't know why these companies are spending so much developing this technology, when their customers clearly aren't checking how well it works.