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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRitZlhL3OQ - 6 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2aNJCsfrP0 - 10 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mITK3qaaHQ8 - 4 years ago
And none of those shows a Cybercab. What's your point?
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EV tariffs are going to happen throughout the entire west with or without Trump. Western governments have discovered the Chinese plan to decimate western manufacturing by subsidizing it at over 10 X the rate required and seen in the west. Vehicles matter because they are a means for war machine production.
He needs more than that. Both Mercedes and BMW are eating into high end Tesla sales.
Here's an idea - take the Robocab car design, strip out all the FSD/autopilot stuff, put in a steering wheel and dash and sell it starting at the end of the year for ~$25k. It would sell +++
This. If you have a robotaxi for under 30k, why not just sell the car for that much?
There is a good reason why it was all presented in a Hollywood studio, without any specifics. The car we've seen yesterday is a prototype at best, a prototype that's crucially missing a small but important part for a robotaxi - the ability to drive autonomously...
Cybetruck was supposed to cost 40k (1/3 of the initial price) and have twice the range or something like that.
Are they faking this? The robots seem way too human like, maybe they are remotely controlled?
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The problem is Tesla and Musk have been lying about full self-driving for years: https://motherfrunker.ca/fsd/ In 2016 Tesla said that "as of today, all Tesla vehicles produced in our factory – including Model 3 – will have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver." That was a lie: https://electrek.co/2024/08/24/tesla-deletes-its-blog-pos…
I donno. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Yes in your examples they were not completely honest. That’s true. But they have been innovating and shipping real products too which really work in the real world. If I have to choose between a company that does not innovate and never lies, and one that innovates but sometimes lies, then I think I rather have the lying innovator. At least as long as the lies c…
They weren't honest. End of. No qualification or equivocation.
> At least as long as the lies come from a certain optimism and ambition
It amazes me the amount of mental gymnastics people will perform to defend fraud.
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ElonJet was a live geotracking site for private jets. You can post cisgender, it just comes with a warning. Before, people were being banned for using "him" instead of "her" to describe biological males who self-identified as women. People were secretly de-amplified for criticizing the government policy of lockdowns. It was censorship on a whole different magnitude.
So your response is “it was worse in the past”? Two wrongs don’t make a right. Either you’re a “free speech absolutist” or you’re just a lying charlatan. Elon is clearly the latter, the evidence is right in front of your eyes and you choose to make excuses. ElonJet is posting publicly available information and isn’t banned on other platforms. Something coming with a warning is the same as restricting speech.
People are only being banned for impersonation and live geotracking. In the previous Twitter, you were banned, shadow-banned, de-amplified, etc, if you expressed views that the political left disagreed with.
You want to justify and downplay the latter my presenting Musk as equally villainous. It's disingenuous mental gymnastics to advance your censorious and authoritarian agenda. Getting Twitter back to being censored is what motivates the incessant attacks on Musk.
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I’m not saying anything about Musk. I’m simply saying that it is false to claim that attaching a warning to something is restricting free speech. Two good examples are the government warning on tobacco product or cancer-causing warnings in public spaces. These are warnings and do not constitute restriction of free speech.
The warnings undoubtedly come with a derank in the Twitter algorithm, so it's very much not the same. But if you want to get really technical then this isn't even about "free speech". A platform restricting speech has nothing to do with "free speech" as it is defined in the US constitution. That's all about governments creating laws that punish people for certain speech. But hey, we're in a world where Elon spouts no…
So this is just yet more nonsense.
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If you can't recognize his contributions I think you're too emotionally attached to the question.
I do recognise his major contributions: Made electric cars commonplace sooner than I thought with the Model S, financed SpaceX's doubtlessly awesome progress, and... well that's pretty much it. Thing is, the illusion is fading, his previously "inscrutable" politics are on his sleeve, and you can't just pretend he's not a complete liability for any company because of his irrational, and frankly childish, behaviour.
At the very least, if you are going to impartially assess his business accomplishments, you should completely disregard his political views when making that assessment. Otherwise you're giving him a dishonest business leadership assessment as a ploy to punish him for his politics.
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Last flat I had, there was a giant Allen wrench stuck in the tire and it was rapidly leaking. Filled it back up as much as I could with the included inflator kit, took it a big box store, they patched it up and was on my way. Took maybe an hour total out of my day? No $ cost to me (under tire warranty)
Teslas don't come with an inflator. sigh. (and if you get one + slime stuff, you will kill the TPMS and have to buy a new one)
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can I get a lidar for 1k like the cars use?
There is no reliable FSD implementation on any car right now so it's kind of an irrelevant question. The more relevant one is what will happen first. Tesla figuring out how to make vision only work on their existing hardware. Or the price of LiDAR coming down.
The word “reliable” without any units attached isn’t well-defined, so I can’t say whether Waymo meets that bar, but it’s a good customer experience.