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Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Modern "stick built" homes in the US are well insulated and actually quite efficient. Stone walls would be a poor choice in most areas in the US due to extreme conditions. As you mention, once a stone house heats up in the summer, that is an incredible amount of thermal mass to cool. Your AC would run non-stop. Similar issue in the winter, super high heating costs in cold regions.

This is not about insulation but heat capacity.

Heat capacity just means the AC is removing the heat coming from the stone walls, as opposed to the heat from the sun shining on it.

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> EU is arguably more regulated than California, but the regulations here have more sense to them, and arguably higher benefit to cost ratio. The last time I checked the EU appeared to be in a full-blown multi-country energy crisis triggered by some of the most stunning displays of regulatory incompetence so far this century. So I would accept that the EU is more regulated but I don't think that is the sort of point…

"would be fighting tooth-and-nail to have my country not do what Germany did. The Texas grid, by comparison, looks like a paradise even if it is currently experiencing a week-long outage!" Can you clarify such strong words? I've never encountered any power outtage in Germany my whole life and Texas this looks fairly regular.

Electricity in Germany is somewhere in the region of 3x as expensive as in Texas. I'd prefer to have cheap power and a contingency plan for a week or so of grid outage than live with those sort of prices.

I've been keeping an eye on how the situation in Germany seems to be developing [0]. It makes for grim reading.

[0] https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/germany

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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oh, you're just so busy here, aren't you? we don't have to prove the negative; you have to prove your claim.

Uh, OP here.... Calling the Rock's San Andreas a documentary was, in fact, a joke. You are now free to experience the many other surprising and delightful things that this life has to offer.

answered elsewhere.

Yes, my bad.

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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> Sorry to be pedantic, but most US businesses have 208/120V or 480/277V three-phase electrical services. Sorry to be pedantic, but define “business”. As someone who’s worked on many job sites doing commercial electrical work, it’s not as common as you imply that there’s three phase service running to a business. Do a lot have it, yes, most, no. Literally everything else you said I’m aligned with.

I sell and run commercial electrical work and I can think of maybe a handful of places I’ve sent electricians that have a single phase service. I live in a large metro area of 4M people, virtually every commercial building over 4-5k sq ft has a three-phase service where I live. Banks, fast food restaurants, gas stations, etc. What sorts of commercial projects have you worked on that don’t have three phase electrical…

> Then again, there’s a lot of small business commercial stuff I ignore because I’m at a union shop and we can’t compete with a one man electrical van when it comes to wiring up a 1500 sq ft nail salon or whatever, there’s no money in that market anyways.

Ding ding ding... so are they businesses or not? I didn't comment on whether you could make money as an electrician on them, but to imply the hundreds of thousands of businesses like what you just described above aren't _businesses_ especially considering they are on commercially zoned property is just silly.

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I have multiple friends who have had significant damage to their home solar setups this year alone due to hail and high winds in North Texas. Some who didn't have hail damage are now having difficulty getting other roof damage repaired because in order for their warranty to be valid they need certain people to remove the panels before other roof work can be done. But those people are massively backed up by all the ot…

Truly an insurmountable problem for our civilization. Well, better keep driving 5mpg trucks and dying when the power company fails then.

Those people predominantly drive EVs...

Re: Houston-area residents enter sixth day without power, air conditioning

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Heat capacity doesn't mean much unless the walls are several feet thick. The frost line where I live is around 5 feet deep into the ground- meaning that footings for any building have to be that deep to avoid shifting as the ground freezes and thaws. Summer months thick stone walls can be nice if you are able to keep humidity out, but if you don't and your walls actually stay cool you're dealing with a lot of mold an…

"several feet thick." I don't know how thick a feet is, where we live we don't measure distances by the length of the feet of the king. But I have lived for 10 years in a house with 30 cm thick walls and it has a tremendously positive effect, when outsite it is 30C and inside the walls are still 20C into July. "mold and mildew" Didn't have that problem in 10 years. This more happens with modern insulation than thick…

There's a fantastic service called the internet, which helps with things you don't know about. According to Google, 5 feet is roughly 1.5 meters. That means that the ground is frozen solid on average 1.5 meters below surface level in winter. However much thermal capacity your walls have, it won't be long before your attempt at heating or cooling your living space is competing directly with the outside environment. It is less of a concern in summer, since the difference between inside and outside is much smaller, but critical for energy usage in winter.

As for mold and mildew, you only get that with modern insulation if you have a poor envelope- i.e. drafts in the walls due to improper sealing. It's not the sort of thing drier climates have to worry about at all, but in very humid environments such as where I live, preventing condensation inside is important. That means not having walls that are cooler than the dew point of the air getting inside.

Basements here are very prone to getting mold or mildew, because (a) they have solid walls, (b) are kept cool via the earth acting as a heat bank, and (c) will readily absorb moisture through the stone or cement.

Most around here have some sort of sealant paint or active dehumidification running in summer to avoid mildew. If the basement walls didn't have to be load bearing, solid wall construction would absolutely be the last choice for basements because they're definitely the worst for thermal and moisture resistance properties.

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It's likely a combination of multiple factors. Texas, being a red state, most certainly has a stronger climate denial sentiment, which is going to affect policies and regulations. Texas may be unprepared because major hurricanes were uncommon in the past. Global warming means hotter temperatures which makes long power outages more unbearable. And probably other reasons I can't think of. I expect things will improve,…

Centerpoint applied for $100 mil in funding from the department of energy in 2023 to make their lines more resilient to wind and storms and were turned down. It's not nearly as clear cut as "red = head in sand"

I put too much emphasis on that particular point, but I was trying make the argument that there are likely multiple factors at play here.

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There actually are a few problems with underground power lines, notably that maintenance & upgrades are much harder and more expensive, they tend to get severed by construction, they tend to get severed by earthquakes, and bad things result if the waterproof conduit around them is punctured. On balance I think they're probably worth it for areas prone to wildfire, but undergrounding all power lines is not a panacea,…

In European cities where underground power lines are normal these issues aren't a problem. There might be costs (checking before construction for example) and it being normal it helps.

Europe doesn't have earthquakes. (Neither does Houston, but the previous comment did mention it as an issue in general.)

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New Orleans and Houston are basically built on swamps. In New Orleans, you can’t even bury people below ground, so I doubt you can do much with power lines underground.

Swamp is a poor excuse IMHO. Plenty of my city Christchurch is built on swamp. yet it has slowly been replacing HV and LV power poles with underground cabling for about 50 years now, although there is still some remaining. We don't get hurricanes so I'm not sure of reasons for us using underground cabling. NZ is no where near as wealthy as Texas so Houston should be able to afford to do it too. Christchurch gets eart…

>NZ is no where near as wealthy as Texas so Houston should be able to afford to do it too.

No country is nearly as wealthy as the USA, but the USA can't afford to build a bullet train or replace decrepit bridges that randomly fall down.

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Does Germany get as bad of storms as the US? This article seems to say the US has worse weather than Europe: > the colonists who arrived in the New World from Europe during the seventeenth century and found North American weather to be, in a word, hellish. https://www.neh.gov/article/storm-patrol

What a weird take. Europe has extreme weather to match North America. Any Texans wanting to talk about their special case can have a look at Iberia and its meteorology, for example. The notion that North American weather is anomalistic is false.

I'm not the one that came up with the idea that the US has worse weather. I got the idea from that article.

>The volatile weather in the eastern United States differs from the more moderate climates of western Europe because it is largely controlled by eastward-flowing air masses that approach over land instead of air masses that arrive from over the ocean and cause temperatures to shift more gradually.

Europe doesn't have hurricanes. Europe has 1/4 as many tornadoes as the US.

Which part of Iberia's weather are you referring to?

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