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Why is Chile so long?

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Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Did you miss this early in the article? Or did you just not find it convincing? > Chile is so long because of the Andes. Here's a map of elevation in South America. > You can't easily pass these mountains, and the tiny sliver of land to their west is Chile.

Ok but why a single country ? Why hasn't it split?

TFA also covers that - desert in the north and rainforest in the south.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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The Concepción metro area is 1 million people, Valparaíso/Viña as well. Chileans love to point out that there isn't much outside of Santiago but it's not really true.

There isn’t. Especially in the south. Floods, fires, and killer bears. It’s like The Purge, but every day. Don’t come.

> killer bears

I think this is where you gave it away. Nobody will believe this and we're all moving to south Chile now.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Mornings and evenings. It is because its path is closer to the Sun. So when looking towards it you are always partly looking towards the Sun.

So you are saying the morning star name is technically wrong? It should be the morning and evening star? Of course star is wrong, too...

Venus is known as either the ‘morning star’ or ‘evening star’ depending on where Venus is in its orbit relative to Earth.

It actually just recently (start of June) went behind the sun; it’s still too close to the sun in the sky to really be visible at all at the moment. As it moves further out from behind the sun it will start being visible in the evening sky in late July right after the sun sets, so it will be the ‘evening star’ again for the next eight months or so before it passes in front of the sun, disappearing from view for a bit, then comes back as the morning star next summer.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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I was trying to say that loanwords are generally present in languages. Modern German itself has many weirdly used English words without any immigrants to bring them in the first place. > Still influenced the dialect, didn’t it? A few food names do not qualify as "influenced the dialect" for me. Mapudungun did influence the Chilean dialect, but German did not. I generally find the "German influence in the south" very…

> Modern German itself has many weirdly used English words without any immigrants to bring them in the first place. This is correct. Case in point: Beamer . > A few food names do not qualify as "influenced the dialect" for me. For you . That doesn’t change the fact that the term has widespread use all over the national territory. > Mapudungun did influence the Chilean dialect If you want to stress the point, I’d addi…

There are more Quechua words, but yes, a few food names are not "language influence" in any seruous way. French influenced English and Russian, Arabic influenced Spanish, but the only linguistic legacy of Germans in Chile are kuchen, strudel, and some weird last names used as street names.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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When I was getting my degree, two of my classmates spoke Spanish as a first language. One was a transfer student from Madrid, and the other was an immigrant from northern Mexico. I was in the room the first time they met and tried speaking Spanish to one another. They couldn't understand each other and communicated solely in English after about 10 minutes.

I call bullshit on this. I am from Spain, I have met many people from different Spanish-speaking countries including Equatorial Guinea (people always forget about them), and we rarely have any problem understanding anybody (unless someone is an idiot who doesn't want to be understood, it happens too).

This is just anecdata regarding two people I knew personally. As with everything, reality may be quite different in the aggregate and individual experiences will vary.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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I travelled to Chile earlier this year and visited Atacama and Torres de Paine. The thing that boggled my mind was that you can't drive between the two without a very long detour through Argentina. Chile has literally no road linking the northern part with the southernmost part without going outside the country. It is also mind boggling that rail is not more popular there. A long, slim country is ideal for high speed…

I tried to cross the border into Argentina north of Puerto Montt. I wanted to check out the Argentinian side for a day or two. But they wouldn't let me across the border with my rental car, and I got turned back. I suppose the rules are a little bit different in the far south?

Actually it is because you need car insurance for accidents against third parties. This must be bought before going over the border. Usually there are shops in border towns that can help you with the paperwork.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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> Modern German itself has many weirdly used English words without any immigrants to bring them in the first place. This is correct. Case in point: Beamer . > A few food names do not qualify as "influenced the dialect" for me. For you . That doesn’t change the fact that the term has widespread use all over the national territory. > Mapudungun did influence the Chilean dialect If you want to stress the point, I’d addi…

There are more Quechua words, but yes, a few food names are not "language influence" in any seruous way. French influenced English and Russian, Arabic influenced Spanish, but the only linguistic legacy of Germans in Chile are kuchen , strudel , and some weird last names used as street names.

> a few food names are not "language influence" in any seruous way

Your conclusion is then that Chilean Spanish has no Quechua language influence in any serious way?

> the only linguistic legacy of Germans in Chile are kuchen, strudel, and some weird last names used as street names

You forgot bocha, polca, and murra.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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One of the most interesting drives in my life was Chile from the island of Chiloe to the Tatio Geysers in the Atacama. Just so many different climate zones, and all in relatively close proximity. Chiloe and Puerto Montt were damp, cold, and fog-shrouded in Summer (Jan-Feb), very similar to parts of the coastal pacific northwest. The area to its north, centered around the German-influenced town of Valdivia, was Califo…

I travelled to Chile earlier this year and visited Atacama and Torres de Paine. The thing that boggled my mind was that you can't drive between the two without a very long detour through Argentina. Chile has literally no road linking the northern part with the southernmost part without going outside the country. It is also mind boggling that rail is not more popular there. A long, slim country is ideal for high speed…

Actually you can cross the entirety of Chile by car if you don't mind taking a ferry that starts in Puerto Montt and arrives in Puerto Natales. It is 4 day trip, but the scenery is gorgeous. Regarding the rail system, Chile had a great rail system that went from Arica to Puerto Montt with lots of spurs going into inner towns. However it was slowly dismantled and now most of the rails are in disuse, or used for the transport of goods. There is still a main rail for passenger transport, but most people prefers taking the bus or driving because of convenience.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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There are more Quechua words, but yes, a few food names are not "language influence" in any seruous way. French influenced English and Russian, Arabic influenced Spanish, but the only linguistic legacy of Germans in Chile are kuchen , strudel , and some weird last names used as street names.

> a few food names are not "language influence" in any seruous way Your conclusion is then that Chilean Spanish has no Quechua language influence in any serious way? > the only linguistic legacy of Germans in Chile are kuchen , strudel , and some weird last names used as street names You forgot bocha , polca , and murra .

You keep either missing or intentionally misinterpreting what I'm saying, and then arguing against your own interpretation. So let's end it.

> murra

It's mora down here.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Yep. It's way easier to take a boat to the middle of the ocean - fewer roads than even in the amazon :) and the best starry sky of my life

This is a dream of mine, to soend the night far away from land that there's nothing around but water. Did you already have sea experience, or did you just rent a boat and gave it a try?

Nothing but Cthulhu's dreams under you :')
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