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Why is Chile so long?

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Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by aeyes »

throw4847285 wrote: post #25

When I went to Chile I was about to undertake a cross-country move across the US. Everybody I spoke to in Santiago couldn't imagine a country where you can drive a massive distance like that and move from one major metropolis to another. At the time, I thought they were just reflecting on the fact that Chile is a country where 40% of all people live in one metro area, so there isn't another huge metro area to move to…

The Concepción metro area is 1 million people, Valparaíso/Viña as well. Chileans love to point out that there isn't much outside of Santiago but it's not really true.

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Post by santiagobasulto »

alephnerd wrote: post #81
wageslave99 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please note that there is no "standard" Spanish. In the Spain there are multitude of dialects and different variants. Even in the same region (e.g. Andalusia) you can find a ton of different variants. All of them are valid, as the RAE and the AAL make it clear.

RAE is supposed to be the prescriptive source for Spanish, but no one cares about it outside of a subset of Academics in Spain.

Thanks god we don't care. Spain wanting to dictate what's real "spanish" is like the King of England telling a jamaican that their english is wrong.

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Post by flobosg »

aeyes wrote: post #121
throw4847285 wrote: post #25

When I went to Chile I was about to undertake a cross-country move across the US. Everybody I spoke to in Santiago couldn't imagine a country where you can drive a massive distance like that and move from one major metropolis to another. At the time, I thought they were just reflecting on the fact that Chile is a country where 40% of all people live in one metro area, so there isn't another huge metro area to move to…

The Concepción metro area is 1 million people, Valparaíso/Viña as well. Chileans love to point out that there isn't much outside of Santiago but it's not really true.

While that might be true, Chile is a very centralized country, unfortunately.

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Post by Gualdrapo »

servilio wrote: post #110
digging wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not like English. There is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Spanish . It is maintained by the: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Spanish_Academy . In practice, I'm not sure what the impact is. I'm not a native Spanish speaker. But Spanish is not like English in regard to prescriptive norms.

Spanish native here, confirming that RSA is the institution that sets the language standard. But, people always deviate from it, though in my experience in word meanings and pronunciation, never in grammar to a degree that it become intelligible to another Spanish speaker. The toughest film to listen to for me was "The rose seller"[1] (1998), took me like 10m to get my ear accustomed to their pronunciation. [1] https…

The paisa accent is very hard, even for us non-paisa colombians - not only for its colloquialisms but for its cadence.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Post by afh1 »

If all articles were written like this, straight to the point and only the important bits, I would read a lot more and skim a lot less...

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Post by danhau »

I love how effective the article is at communicating. A digestible idea followed by visual example. Rinse and repeat. I think we could learn something from this for our documentations, or even Jira comments.

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Post by racl101 »

The Chilean Spanish portion of the article made me laugh. I'm a Spanish speaker and the Spanish I speak is closer to Mexican Spanish. I could not for the life of me understand Chileans I met in Canada. Brings back funny memories of 2001 for me.

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Post by gaudystead »

prpl wrote: post #115
rob74 wrote: post #66

On the difference of Chilean Spanish to other "dialects": > It’s the farthest region from Spain, so the least communicated to the rest of the empire, and hence the one that drifted the most from the homeland. Er... if you look at the table ( https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_... ), Chile has quite a lot of red, but actually its Spanish is closer to the Spanish from Spain than that of other S…

New Mexican Spanish is similarly isolated, but the number of speakers is tiny.

Orale! Was not expecting to see us New Mexicans get called out here on Hacker News, but you're not wrong. It's surprising how much variation there is despite NM being so close to Mexico.

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Post by woodson »

mechanicalpulse wrote: post #104
rob74 wrote: post #66

On the difference of Chilean Spanish to other "dialects": > It’s the farthest region from Spain, so the least communicated to the rest of the empire, and hence the one that drifted the most from the homeland. Er... if you look at the table ( https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_... ), Chile has quite a lot of red, but actually its Spanish is closer to the Spanish from Spain than that of other S…

> So it looks like those have drifted further from "standard" Spanish, while Chile hasn't as much? I think the chart is saying less about differences relative to Spanish Spanish and more about each regional dialect relative to the others. In the table, the countries appear to be ordered (horizontally as well as vertically) by distance relative to Spain. Assuming there's nothing (like an ocean) to prevent the diffusio…

These differences go back much further in the past, so FARC has nothing to do with it in Colombia (it’s spelled with an “o”). There’s a large linguistic diversity within these countries, which that table doesn’t reflect or account for.

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Post by lucideer »

Reading the title, my initial expectation was that this was going to be a Croatia/Bosnia-Herzegovina situation. Refreshing to read that most of the reasons here are geological/meteorological in nature.
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