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Why is Chile so long?

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Re: Why is Chile so long?

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Because the author tweeted it? It’s a new article

yes - but i don't follow him. yet there is was. i guess some sort of promotion.

I don’t think it’s a promo but can’t be sure. I think the algo puts tweet threads that people you follow engage with (read the whole thing, like it, etc).

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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post #277

I don't know but a Peruvian once told me that when God created South America he gave the Peruvians the titties from lake Titicaca and Bolivia got the shit left over. I never quite figured out what it meant.

“caca” means shit in Spanish, so is a word play with titi-caca and probably a xenophobic remark about Bolivia

Habla suave, caga duro as he says.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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post #186

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I’m told that prior to industrialization there were areas along the Andes (in Peru for sure, presumably Chile as well) where you rarely if ever met the tribes living uphill or downhill from you. It was way easier to travel north and south.

Quite the contrary, the management of the different ecological floors was the specialty of the inhabitants of the Andes, even now. The same community owns and uses land at different altitudes, which can range from 1000 to 4000 meters above sea level. This generated an economy based on the exchange of goods along vertical lines. https://haubooks.org/reciprocity-and-redistribution/ https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/ob…

Might have been an urban legend or someone confusing their locations.

There was a very similar model in California as well. Seasonal migration from the sea to the hills and back. Given the supposed patterns of settlement of the Americas maybe this is not particularly surprising.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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When I went to Chile I was about to undertake a cross-country move across the US. Everybody I spoke to in Santiago couldn't imagine a country where you can drive a massive distance like that and move from one major metropolis to another. At the time, I thought they were just reflecting on the fact that Chile is a country where 40% of all people live in one metro area, so there isn't another huge metro area to move to…

The Concepción metro area is 1 million people, Valparaíso/Viña as well. Chileans love to point out that there isn't much outside of Santiago but it's not really true.

Valparaíso and Viña are just next door from Santiago though.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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I have no idea. Also there is no standard spanish even in Spain. Like Andalucian spanish and Domenican spanish have a lot in common but vary greatly with other forms of spanish.

When I was getting my degree, two of my classmates spoke Spanish as a first language. One was a transfer student from Madrid, and the other was an immigrant from northern Mexico. I was in the room the first time they met and tried speaking Spanish to one another. They couldn't understand each other and communicated solely in English after about 10 minutes.

I call bullshit on this. I am from Spain, I have met many people from different Spanish-speaking countries including Equatorial Guinea (people always forget about them), and we rarely have any problem understanding anybody (unless someone is an idiot who doesn't want to be understood, it happens too).

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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That spanish similarity thing can't be right. Argentina and Uruguay speak basically the same spanish (unless you count dialects like Cordoba)

Argentinian here; yeah it's bullshit, also there's no single "Argentina spanish" or "Spain spanish", Andalusian is very different from Madrilean etc.

I have to say though that Chilean spanish is commonly considered quite hard to understand, they speak really fast with lots of mannerisms and "can't understand a single thing of a Chilean speaking" is a common meme in Argentina at the very least.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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post #275

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And the real history in 1493 by Charles C. Mann. Samurai were documented as guards on galleons brought to Mexico. It needs to be a movie.

Look up Coria del Rio in Spain, too. A lot of people have the "Japón" surname. "Japón" it's Spanish for Japan.

Just under 2000 Spaniards have this surname, and to this day they primarily reside in Seville province, which was long the only allowed port of entry to peninsular Spain for imported goods from Spanish overseas territories.

https://ine.es/widgets/nombApell/index.shtml

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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That spanish similarity thing can't be right. Argentina and Uruguay speak basically the same spanish (unless you count dialects like Cordoba)

Absolute bullshit. Though, I guess it doesn't measure accents idioms. The referenced paper seems to be using this database: https://www.hcias.uni-heidelberg.de/en/research-at-the-hcias...

And even that data is kind of suspect, based on a simple glimpse at the screenshot, which shows idioms for "ISN'T IT?". Colombians definitely would say all of the following, unlike shown in the table:

  A cada quien le va según quiere Dios, ____
  - cierto?
  - no?
  - o no?
  - si o no?
And actually would probably not say "si?" as shown. "Verdad?" might be heard, but maybe an older generation.

Re: Why is Chile so long?

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post #291

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because 'we usually say coche but sometimes say auto ' is almost the same as 'we usually say auto but sometimes say coche ', but they differ from 'we always say carro '. if a study is saying spanish is radically different in montevideo and in buenos aires, it's just wrong. this may not be the particular design error that resulted in these incorrect results, but it seems like a promising candidate

I think we're both in agreement. Perhaps my example of coche/carro was unfortunate and I didn't make my point clear enough. A well-designed study, in my mind, would compare the usage of a varied bag of words. Starting from articles, pronouns, numbers, common verbs, then common objects, verb forms, less common adjectives, ending with uncommon objects and phrases. The compared words would be weighted based on their fre…

i agree
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