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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by crhicko »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Will there be any additional cost like a subscription to use the features of the device?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by naikrovek »

antisthenes wrote: post #93

Without going into pricing details, what's the longevity of an e-ink device at 60fps? As far as I understand it, e-ink has essentially a "finite" albeit a very large number of refreshes available, when moving the "nodules" to display different images. Has the issue been solved? E.g. will users be able to get at least 5-7 years of heavy usage out of this device? Or will this become e-waste after 2-3 years?

It’s not eink, it’s a reflective lcd whose design tradeoffs were tweaked for what this manufacturer wanted.

While technically it is an lcd, reflective lcds are extremely readable in sunlight and use very little power to maintain the image on screen. An epaper/eink display uses zero power to maintain the display and uses electrostatic manipulation to refresh the screen.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

floundy wrote: post #95
stefanha wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time getting a sense of what the display is really like from the website and the embedded video (it cuts too quickly, uses depth of field shots of the tablet, etc). Given that this is all about a new display, it would be nice to show a more pragmatic demo video right upfront. A demo that gives a clear look at how the display behaves with respect to lighting, reflections, animation, touch screen, etc. Th…

The lack of any 3rd party hands-on video reviews was the biggest red flag that halted any consideration I had to purchase this product.

they're coming!! but i appreciate your skepticism until there's more video proof, i am the same

too many broken promises by other tech cos, i understand we have to earn your trust

there should be more video reviews coming out on twitter though from early customers / testers

.. if i wasnt drowning in launch, id try to find you a link, if anyone else could help !

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by msephton »

e-_pusher wrote: post #89
dmitrygr wrote: post #28

More or less the same screen tech as some old Sony PalmOS PDAs like SJ20 from the 2000s: Transflective greyscale LCD. Glad they are making a comeback. They were nice. I still use an SJ20 to read ebooks for this very reason. Plus, they can be had for $10 on eBay.

Source: I was the chief hardware engineer for this project. Thanks for your comment! I grew up using a Palm III that was already super old when I had it in high school. But years later, my fond memories of the sense of focus I had using it became a major inspiration for deciding to join Anjan’s team for this project :)

I'd be interested to hear more about the specific screen tech and the how it compares with the ~2000s.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by garyrob »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #98
garyrob wrote: post #91

My biggest need is for an ebook reader. What abilities does it have in that area? Having trouble finding info on that on the web site.

- run the kindle app (android app) - run epub readers like lithium reader - use our PDF reader or others like adobe - go into the browser and download books - use google play books and its beautiful page flip animation lol

Excellent! Thanks!

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by boochiboo12 »

thot_experiment wrote: post #114
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Can I run my own software on it? I would love to buy an epaper portable of some sort, but the fact that they're all locked down is a no go. One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove.

yup yes, we will release a bootloader unlock tool so you can do whatever you want

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by faltmast »

crhicko wrote: post #121
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Will there be any additional cost like a subscription to use the features of the device?

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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

turtlebits wrote: post #104

IMO, the software will be the most important part of the device, not necessarily the screen. What makes the Remarkable great is that it's functionality (while limited) makes for an excellent experience. Any more details on what apps will be built in and designed for the device? (not just 3rd party Android apps that will feel like any other tablet). Also - I would order this immediately to support more e-ink devices,…

I had a remarkable for like a day before I retuned it. Couldn’t write-to-text into a PDF. Could type into a PDF or could write-to-text in their writing app. But not in a PDF. It was also intolerably slow.
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