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Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Hi yall, founder of Daylight here.

Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :)

I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer.

Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Paperlike epaper display that has no ghosting and high refresh rate - 60 to 120fps. We started working on this in 2018.

We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metallic-look / not Paperlike enough, viewing angle, white state, rainbow mura, parallax, resolution, size, lack of quality backlight, etc.

First proof of concept in late 2021, and then it took us 2.5 years to get it into production.

And we built a whole android tablet around it.

It’s essentially our attempt at making a remarkable tablet on steroids / kindle on steroids. Definitely some trade offs, but on the whole we think it’s worth it. (& on twitter a bunch of early customers seem to think so too)

Note: it’s 60fps epaper, not off the shelf Eink. We spent years developing what we think is the best epaper display in the world and it’s exclusively manufactured by our display factory in Japan.

There’s still many cases where traditional Eink is going to be better (bistability, viewing angle, white state color, etc), but we feel for more general purpose computers you can code on and do google docs on and do fast multitouch amongst a thousand other things, the speed and lack of ghosting totally makes it worth it.

Think of it as a Godzilla sized pebble watch with a decade of improvement

Or think of it as a gameboy advanced, advanced

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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It's not an e-ink display, but rather a monochrome transreflective lcd. [1] [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/comments/1bk294i/comment/kvx17...

I don’t see the word transflective anywhere on that Reddit post, and don’t really know what it means. Where did you get that info, or is it obvious from looking at it?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Android 13 with 8GB RAM. I'm not familiar with the MediaTek Helio G99 CPU. Will this perform well or just be another underpowered tablet for $800?

At this price point, I'd much rather have an portable e-paper external display at a cheaper price. Seems quite underpowered

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Android 13 with 8GB RAM. I'm not familiar with the MediaTek Helio G99 CPU. Will this perform well or just be another underpowered tablet for $800?

I haven't been impressed by any Mediatek part to date.

This Xiaomi tablet uses the same chip as us

It’s pretty decent performance, and what makes it special is how good battery life is

Check the notebook check review

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi-Redmi-Pad-review-Afford...

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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It's not an e-ink display, but rather a monochrome transreflective lcd. [1] [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/comments/1bk294i/comment/kvx17...

Hmmm, a little disappointed but I'm I still very interested. My favorite smart watch was a pebble and they used a transflective display, I loved it. If this is more of the same but refined and bigger count me in.

It is a Godzilla pebble watch

I hope you will be pleased

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

#27

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

It does look great.

Any plans of supplying the ePaper display to OEM's like Amazon, Remarkable, etc.?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmmm, a little disappointed but I'm I still very interested. My favorite smart watch was a pebble and they used a transflective display, I loved it. If this is more of the same but refined and bigger count me in.

It is a Godzilla pebble watch I hope you will be pleased

I hope you don't meet the same fate as Pebble. Maybe you can do a watch next?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

#30

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Any plans to sell just the display?
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