Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

Post by rafram » Sat, May 18, 2024, 5:45 PM UTC

behnamoh wrote: post #8

Any one noticed how Sam sometimes intentionally tries to attack his own work? For example, he has said GPT-2 was very bad, GPT-3 was bad, and GPT-4 is okay. He also fed the AI doomers by talking about AGI dangers and how the world needs to watch out for a future AI catastrophe. He just gives off the vibe of someone trying to act humble but I don't know how much of it is just an act and how much is real. I've never se…

Post by aik » Sat, May 18, 2024, 5:48 PM UTC

rafram wrote: post #20

aik wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this perspective is probably only true for 0.001% of people that actually follow Sam closely and are not optimistic about AGI and like to throw their opinions around. The superficial stuff. The rest don’t care to even know who Sam is and don’t care to assume motive. It’s very likely they’ll bounce back. I’d rather OpenAI continue to innovate and push the industry forward as they have been. Haven’t seen much o…

> Haven’t seen much of that from Microsoft Microsoft is the de facto controlling shareholder in OpenAI. They provide all the money, compute, and backing, and have full access to the models. If OpenAI collapsed tomorrow, Microsoft would absorb its key employees (as they almost did during the board debacle) and everything would continue under the Microsoft umbrella. “OpenAI” is just a shinier name for work that is bein…

Post by whimsicalism » Sat, May 18, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

rafram wrote: post #21

behnamoh wrote: post #8

Any one noticed how Sam sometimes intentionally tries to attack his own work? For example, he has said GPT-2 was very bad, GPT-3 was bad, and GPT-4 is okay. He also fed the AI doomers by talking about AGI dangers and how the world needs to watch out for a future AI catastrophe. He just gives off the vibe of someone trying to act humble but I don't know how much of it is just an act and how much is real. I've never se…

He’s doing the Elon Musk “I’m not like the other tech CEOs” thing. It’s proven to be very effective in the social media age. It doesn’t matter how much he seems to be dissing his own work when the capabilities speak for themselves.

Post by whimsicalism » Sat, May 18, 2024, 5:51 PM UTC

camillomiller wrote: post #13

Why do we give this people credit by giving for granted that AGI is somehow magically around the corner? It is not, and everyone’s delusional.

Post by whimsicalism » Sat, May 18, 2024, 5:52 PM UTC

etrautmann wrote: post #19

nodesocket wrote: post #18

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I mean you have to think the people who are building it know a lot more than you do. If they are concerned so much so that they quitting and forfeiting millions of dollars there should be reason to be concerned.

Not necessarily. There are plenty of reasonable perspectives on the current attitudes towards AI safety. Assuming that current employees have a secret they’re not sharing about what’s around the corner is just one of many reasonable possibilities.