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Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year. For me, they've gone from an admirable company to cringe-worthy. I really think that the best outcome here is for OpenAI to collapse and get absorbed by Microsoft, where adults can continue some of the good work that is being overshadowed by ego and cult-like vibes.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year. For me, they've gone from an admirable company to cringe-worthy. I really think that the best outcome here is for OpenAI to collapse and get absorbed by Microsoft, where adults can continue some of the good work that is being overshadowed by ego and cult-like vibes.

I think the ego and cult-like atmosphere will lead to more growth (maybe not in the "right" direction but in the technical prowess direction) which offsets all criticism.

And then the lines will cross over the break even point and be absorbed into Microsoft who proceeds to enjoy the lunch for the foreseeable future.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year. For me, they've gone from an admirable company to cringe-worthy. I really think that the best outcome here is for OpenAI to collapse and get absorbed by Microsoft, where adults can continue some of the good work that is being overshadowed by ego and cult-like vibes.

It is not like Microsoft’s CEO was behaving very admirably or free of ego.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Interesting that OpenAI has completely destroyed their reputation over the last year. For me, they've gone from an admirable company to cringe-worthy. I really think that the best outcome here is for OpenAI to collapse and get absorbed by Microsoft, where adults can continue some of the good work that is being overshadowed by ego and cult-like vibes.

Bear in mind that an average person who doesn’t frequent sites like HN might see this differently.

Altman seems to be very aware of that, dropping short sound bites/bits like implying that he has no financial interest in OpenAI (congress hearings IIRC) or comparing GPT4-o to Her.

It sounds like complete nonsense (if you know anything about tech) or cringe at best (Her), but what matters is quotability/catchiness because that what gets pumped by the media.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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Any one noticed how Sam sometimes intentionally tries to attack his own work? For example, he has said GPT-2 was very bad, GPT-3 was bad, and GPT-4 is okay. He also fed the AI doomers by talking about AGI dangers and how the world needs to watch out for a future AI catastrophe. He just gives off the vibe of someone trying to act humble but I don't know how much of it is just an act and how much is real.

I've never seen any CEO just straight out diss their own products.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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post #5

Seems like we need people to start posting mirrors of X content, the same way we post archive links for Washington Post and other firewalled articles

Why? It’s not firewalled.

Mobile Twitter stopped working on phones with adblockers recently (even default ETP on FF or Safari). I suppose that’s the reason.

Re: Sam and Greg's response to OpenAI Safety researcher claims

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> called for international governance of AGI before such calls were popular

And immediately threatened to pull out of EU if such governance were ever put in place

> we have been putting in place the foundations needed for safe deployment of increasingly capable systems. Figuring out how to make a new technology safe for the first time isn't easy.

Especially when "OpenAI" is anything but open.

> This includes thoughtfulness around what they're connected to as they train, solutions to hard problems such as scalable oversight, and other new kinds of safety work

Which EU demanded of them (disclose copyrighted sources, document foundational models etc.), and they threatened to pull out

> We think that empirical understanding can help inform the way forward. We believe both in delivering on the tremendous

Translation: "we're going to be as closed as possible and hopefully will have enough of a moat and enough of companies relying on us to remain relevant and indispensable"

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