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Alexei Navalny has died

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by infecto »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #242
infecto wrote: post #207

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I get so tired of these sentiments. Without a doubt the US pushes its might around the world BUT in the case of Europe, European countries do not have the willpower to create a military like the US's. How did the US lose all its trust? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Europe was frolicking around for decades, most countries with no real economy and making many mistakes a long the way regarding energy security.

"European countries do not have the willpower to create a military like the US's." Yes, not yet, except Macron. "long the way regarding energy security." Germany is switching to US LNG as fast as it can just for the US to signal it will no longer support LNG in Europe. This kind of energy security? [0] [0] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-lng-export-pause-...

I don't think the US stance on limiting LNG export for its own security is a valid defense. Europe/France/Germany made many mistakes before that by shutting off generation plants before having secured long term resources.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by borissk »

zer00eyz wrote: post #238
joakleaf wrote: post #185

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Not sure about the US providing more funding (especially not by a large margin): This chart shows EU outspending the US. https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-huma... .

Total aid, yes. Military spending no. In fact this war has highlighted that NO ONE was ready for the fight that came about. Skip the money for a moment. Ukraine right now is marginally fucked for one reason: 155mm artillery shells. There isnt enough global production to have a war. The US is far and away the largest producer. EU can not keep up and did not bring on anywhere near enough capacity to defend itself in a…

North Korea was ready...

Good thing Bulgaria is able to supply Ukraine with plenty of 152mm shells for their old soviet artillery.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by mupuff1234 »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #93

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's t…

> no longer supporting US wars in the Middle East and beyond.

A lot of these wars are connected - Russia is working with Iran and North Korea (and China to some extent)

Thinking Europe should only care about what happens in their backyard while criticizing the US for not caring enough about Europe's backyard seems hypocritical.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

avodonosov wrote: post #570
danielovichdk wrote: post #499

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Russia’s murder rate is one of the highest in the world, up there with Jamaica’s. Eighty-three percent of murderers and more than 60 percent of murder victims were slobbering drunk during the deed. A typical drunken murder story goes something like this: Two middle-aged male friends meet, go back to A’s apartment, and pound four or five bottles of cheap vodka over a two-day binge. A passes out drunk; B stumbles away,…

Sources? In the following wikipedia article Russia's murder rate is near the world's avearage, close to the US, and 8 times lower than Jamaika. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intenti...

There is some reason to disbelieve the official numbers. They started dropping rapidly under Putin, while the number of unidentified bodies processed by the health system climbed more or less identically: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/russia-is-not-actually-a-very-...

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by mrguyorama »

seanw444 wrote: post #431
r0ckarong wrote: post #331

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Because this whole shit is just another cold war meant to drive the interest of power on both sides. The west got justification to jack up prices on everything in the name of "energy crisis because we need to do the right thing" and the East can expand their power and nationalize western businesses in the name of "sanctions" that happen to be relabeled and still run profitably through shell companies. It's all just a…

And just like every other time, you're the stupid one if you don't vote in lockstep with the current trendy war. And then two decades later after the war, when people aren't so vehemently biased one way or the other, then everyone agrees again "war is stupid - why did everyone fall for it?"

Were we also wrong to defend Kuwait from Saddam?

This isn't the bullshit Bush pulled in the desert, this is defending a mostly free nation from hostile action of it's neighbor.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by rllearneratwork »

FredPret wrote: post #370
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

Europe will now spend more on it’s own defence which is very good for the West and just horrible for Russia. Invading the EU is a different proposition to invading Ukraine. Invading a well-armed Europe is almost impossible.

"Invading a well-armed Europe is almost impossible."

- You don't get it. An alliance of china, russia, iran and north korea will be enabled to do whatever they want. Including invading or, more likely, hitting with missiles critical infrastructure in any Nato country with the exception of US and UK

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by 082349872349872 »

cyrillite wrote: post #500
aerique wrote: post #385

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I never understood why he went back to Russia.

Martyrdom. Navalny calculated that this process would be watched and documented through to the very end. He hoped that might be significant, perhaps even sufficient.

in memoriam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpuBgLBrhfo

> Только синие они и не крапа золота.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

protomolecule wrote: post #480
actionfromafar wrote: post #181

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What deeper integration would that have been? Geniunely curious, I don't see what could have worked once the oligarchs were minted. They only care about selling simple low-effort stuff, easily corrupted, like oil.

Like this (2010): No more tariffs. No more visas. Vastly more economic cooperation between Russia and the European Union. That's the vision presented by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in an editorial contribution to the German daily Süddeutsche Zeitung on Thursday. "We propose the creation of a harmonious economic community stretching from Lisbon to Vladivostok," Putin writes. "In the future, we could even con…

Yeah, I believe visas issue is what actually broke the camel's back. Putin and the Russians felt humiliated when Ukrainians got visa free travel and they didn't. Humiliation is a very powerful emotion.
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