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Alexei Navalny has died

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by tokai »

richrichie wrote: post #187
hurflmurfl wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if you're just trying to troll, but you don't get elected into any Duma if you're from the opposition. In fact I don't remember there being any real (elected) opposition in Russia, the "multiple parties" have always just been a theater. Like maybe some of the smaller parties would sometimes manage to push some insignificant agenda, but the important issues would always be controlled by the actual leadership…

No it was a genuine question. Did his party win any seats at any election at all? Call me old school, i am a bit skeptical of single perspective foreign country coverage after the Iraq war lies and NYT’s fawning coverage of Stalin’s Russia.

Russia is not a democracy. I doesn't matter if he won any elections.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by Mistletoe »

merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

Putin has cancer and Father Time is undefeated. There’s reason for much optimism in the world.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by KaiserPro »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #54
belter wrote: post #34

A little reminder of what Putin has been up to in the last few years. - Annexation of Crimea (2014) - MH17 Downing (2014) - Intervention in Syria - 2016 U.S. Election Interference - Skripal Poisoning (2018) - Anti-LGBTQ+ Laws - Navalny Poisoning (2020) - Wagner Group Activities - Invasion of Ukraine (2022) - Killing of Yevgeny Prigozhin (2023) - Killing of Alexei Navalny (2024) What is necessary for US and European L…

- Invasion & Second Chechen War (1999) - Invasion in Georgia (2008)

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by helpfulContrib »

KaiserPro wrote: post #215
pearjuice wrote: post #146

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I'm not sure why or what you are cherry picking here. I could easily quote pieces on how prisoners are treated in Guantanamo Bay, what happened in Abu Ghraib under American supervision or how we happily send billions of dollars to a country of which Save the Children said of the detained children "86% were beaten, 69% were strip searched, 60% spent time in solitary confinement, 68% were denied any healthcare, and 58%…

> you are cherry picking here You are using logical fallacies to make a point. The UK does not set out to kill political prisoners in it's prison system. It hasn't done since at least the 80s (depending on your view of the 6 counties) > we happily send billions of dollars to a country who are a different sovereignty, outside of our control. Realpolitik here. The world is unsavoury, The "West" wages war, just like rus…

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by GartzenDeHaes »

Clubber wrote: post #223
GartzenDeHaes wrote: post #87

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The people behind this propaganda are pushing for privatization, not a draft. The US Army is dramatically downsizing its uniformed troop strength at the same time its budget is dramatically increasing. "Under end strength levels outlined in the annual defense authorization bill passed by the Senate Wednesday evening and expected to be passed by the House on Thursday, the total number of active-duty troops in the arme…

Second paragraph after the one you pasted: Lawmakers say the reason for the lower target isn’t a decrease in missions or threats in recent years. Instead, the number reflects recruiting challenges across the services and an expectation of what level of personnel is realistic in coming months. They aren't lowering troop numbers because they want to, they're moving the goalposts to meet the reality of diminished recrui…

I think the flow of money points to the truth of the mater.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by banku_brougham »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #93

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's t…

this is very hopeful to me. as an american who is aware of whats going on its been discouraging to see my govt consistently spreading evil through the decades

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by zer00eyz »

joakleaf wrote: post #185
cglace wrote: post #144

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The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault. The one bill that was blocked by Congress would be more support than Europe as a whole has provided to Ukraine to date. While I agree that European countries should start to take their defense seriously I don't see how you fault US support of Ukraine.

Not sure about the US providing more funding (especially not by a large margin): This chart shows EU outspending the US. https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-huma... .

Total aid, yes.

Military spending no.

In fact this war has highlighted that NO ONE was ready for the fight that came about.

Skip the money for a moment. Ukraine right now is marginally fucked for one reason: 155mm artillery shells.

There isnt enough global production to have a war. The US is far and away the largest producer. EU can not keep up and did not bring on anywhere near enough capacity to defend itself in a future conflict.

I would also like to point out that without that humanitarian aid flowing INTO Ukraine those folks flee TO the EU. Sending money there avoids bringing the problems to Poland and Germany and having to spend it there. After taking in so many refugees in recent history the EU is gunshy about another migration.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by cglace »

miroljub wrote: post #182
cglace wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault. The one bill that was blocked by Congress would be more support than Europe as a whole has provided to Ukraine to date. While I agree that European countries should start to take their defense seriously I don't see how you fault US support of Ukraine.

That's just something they tell you during your election campaign. The truth is a bit different, USA is good at promissing and forcing other to do, but it did very little, compared to own GDP and military abilities. Money: - EU - 85,0 Mrd. € - USA - 67,7 Mrd. € - Deutschland - 22,1 Mrd. € - Vereinigtes Königreich - 15,7 Mrd. € - Dänemark - 8,8 Mrd. € - EU: nur gemeinsame Hilfe - Quelle: Institut für Weltwirtschaft /…

You cherry-pick tanks as your metric? Why don't we look at the totality of American deliveries, including long-range munitions and artillery, and see who comes ahead? What equivalent of game-changing ordnance, such as the GDSLB, are European countries providing?

This is why a large portion of Americans could care less about the defense of Europe. No matter what we do, it's either wrong or not enough. Meanwhile, Europe spent the last few decades enjoying cheap Russian energy and neglecting its defense spending and then turned around and told the US that we don't do enough to stop Russia.

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