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Alexei Navalny has died

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

There's not so much infighting as there is a fascist fox in the hen-house (Orban). They still managed to get the €54bn aid package through this month - and that's just a Marshal Plan to set the country up for future EU membership. Germany alone has pledged €8bn in bilateral military aid for Ukraine this year, and there's a further €5bn coming from the coalition. https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-eu-aid-fu…

Vladimir Kara-Murza is a minor figure, one of the many others in jail, who are decent people but irrelevant politicians. 99% of Russians haven’t heard of him. At this moment the only active and relevant politician is Nadezhdin.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Yeah Navalny is dead but have you looked at their shopping carts?

But wasn't that the prime argument for the US previously?

"Disregard the wars that the US gets into, have you seen their cars and houses?"

And it did work for a long time. People would give you a lot of leeway if you had a nice house and a car.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, all the same, UK prison cells and Russian Gulag with people tortured and worked to death. There is no difference between a $10 fine for parking in the wrong spot and the death sentence. The later is just a little bit more "harsh".

That's right there are no differences. The UK nabbed a 17 year old English girl named Carole Richardson in 1975 and tortured her until she confessed to bombing pubs that soldiers frequented in Guildford. Her detention without charge for many days was allowed due to then recent legislation stripping those civil liberties. Her and three Irishmen she knew who were also tortured and who also confessed under torture were…

> All to further the British occupation of Ireland which is similar to the Russian occupation of the Ukraine.

British occupation of Ireland ended over a 100 years ago. And many people in Northern Ireland do not want to be part of the ROI. There would have been no conflict if that wasn't the case.

I have strongly criticized the British actions during The Troubles in the past on many difference fronts, but to equate the invasion of Ukraine with the complex situation in NI is offensively misinformed.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What do you want to world to do? Support Ukraine more. Support refugees from Russia. Enact personal sanctions against 6000 war-enablers that Navalny team prepared: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6000_List And their families and kids who all keep their money in US, UK and EU.

Refugees from Russia? They are free to travel to many countries, there are plenty of Russian expats in Europe, who also happen to support Putin

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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I wonder how the Kremlin apologists will spin this one. I find it unbelievable that someone like Putin seems to inspire people that are nominally far outside of his sphere of influence in spite of decades of mass murder leading an empire run by criminals.

Tucker Carlson gave a pre-emptive justification following his tour, saying that real leaders have to kill people.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

Not sure I remember the source, but even Navalny was not against Russia’s war to get its buffer zones back. Of course, if Navalny was able to magically overthrow Putin, it’d be harder for a democratic regime to fight an offensive war because no one wants to personally participate in a war.

Not sure about downvotes, but Navalny was definitely against bringing back Crimea to Ukraine. In his own words: "Crimea is not a pastry to pass from hands to hands". After it becomes clear that "3 day" invasion of Ukraine is unsuccessful he changed his mind. But only after it, not before.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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There are smart people who work for Russia, or worse - for russian gov. Without them it would not be possible. How can an individual have both the critical thinking and still have the gut to contribute to this? I grew up in rural russia. It's much much worse than what you see on the facade. My neighbour was a police man. His 15 years boy raped a kid from local orphanage and captured it on a video. No justice followed…

Russia’s murder rate is one of the highest in the world, up there with Jamaica’s. Eighty-three percent of murderers and more than 60 percent of murder victims were slobbering drunk during the deed. A typical drunken murder story goes something like this: Two middle-aged male friends meet, go back to A’s apartment, and pound four or five bottles of cheap vodka over a two-day binge. A passes out drunk; B stumbles away, rapes and strangles A’s prepubescent daughter, steals A’s microwave oven, and sets A’s apartment on fire to cover his tracks but passes out while setting the fire, then dies of smoke inhalation. (This, by the way, happened to my ex-girlfriend’s next-door neighbors.)

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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The 2022 documentary 'Navalny' is important and explains how the anti-corruption campaigner got to that terrible place, being poisoned with a Novichok nerve agent and still deciding to go back to Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navalny_(film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_HsKCWEHw (trailer)

I never understood why he went back to Russia.

Martyrdom.

Navalny calculated that this process would be watched and documented through to the very end. He hoped that might be significant, perhaps even sufficient.

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