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Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

#141

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I don't even get why people spend money on this stuff. You're just paying an idiot tax because you're a sucker for marketing. Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price. Or it will just turn out to be a silly gimmick and they'll save the time and money entirely. Stuff like 3D TVs come to mind. The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to…

I’m a “wait for the 2.0 or 3.0” person, but I’m grateful to the people who dive in for the 1.0. They’re the people who provide the feedback that helps make the 2.0 better.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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> My theory is that those able to do delayed gratification are happier. Or it could be that being happier makes delayed gratification easier. Not sure, but either way there is a link. In that case, someone that is easily able to delay but chooses not to might be happiest of all? > Subsequent upgrades provide marginal enjoyment and often feel more like obligations than anything. Uh huh... I don't know, I don't find yo…

Numerous studies in psychology suggest that the ability to delay gratification is indeed linked to better outcomes in life, including higher academic achievement, better health, and more profound personal satisfaction. Instant gratification is largely simple decisions by simple people.

Right but the point is it's the ability to delay, not the act of delaying. For the act to be valuable, you need an external reason for it. You don't delay for the sake of delaying.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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> I'm currently typing this blog post in a floating window in the middle of snow-covered Yosemite. I am a floating body manifested into the transcendental Tim Cook matrix. I look into the sky and follow the soft clouds as they pass overhead. They slowly part, revealing Steve Jobs' smiling face watching over me from the heavens above. I am merely one more thing. god damn; this is the most dystopian shit i've read in a…

> this might be me showing my age (late 30s)

Mid 20s here and I'm absolutely scared about how people cheer and want these gadgets. Not too far from a black mirror episode, just in slow motion

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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post #96

> I'm currently typing this blog post in a floating window in the middle of snow-covered Yosemite. I am a floating body manifested into the transcendental Tim Cook matrix. I look into the sky and follow the soft clouds as they pass overhead. They slowly part, revealing Steve Jobs' smiling face watching over me from the heavens above. I am merely one more thing. god damn; this is the most dystopian shit i've read in a…

While I definitely understand and even partially agree with you, there's something partially elitist in the attitude of, "just go do it IRL." This tech will eventually be available to most people on the planet in the same way smartphones are. But vacations to Yosemite likely won't be. And that's not counting doing stuff like standing on Mars or traveling to a fantasy world. I have an AVP and it is cool as hell, but I…

Not going to Yosemite is OK, life isn't about consuming as much as you can

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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post #136

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Same here, the keyboard plus iPad Pro has been an incredible combo for me. I’ve written here on HN before about how I use it to write code from the couch, bed, and even hotel rooms by SSHing into the Mac in my office and using Vim. I’ve got an Apple Vision Pro and am planning to test exactly that setup tonight.

Did it work fine?

Honestly it wasn’t bad at all! I’m sort of surprised how nice it was to work with using that setup. I had a little bit of trouble because the terminal/ssh app I like on my iPad (Blink) doesn’t work well at all on AVP, so I had to find another one. I ended up with La Termina which has a UX built for AVP.

I think my only other complaints would be these:

1. Scrolling in Safari can be annoying depending on the website. Last night I was trying to refactor some GitHub Actions, and scrolling through the Action run page, it really wanted to get stuck selecting random parts of the GitHub UI that were close to what I was looking at but definitely not what I was looking at. I want some kind of cursor I can pick up and move in those scenarios I guess.

2. I don’t know why but I kinda expected my iPad keyboard to just work with the AVP, but it obviously did not. I wanted it to work like it does with the Mac, where I can just connect to the iPad as another screen and also use its peripherals, but that was not the case, so I had to run up to my office and grab a Bluetooth keyboard.

All in all it’s not a bad experience so far. I’m not sold on it being better than the iPad just because the AVP is so heavy. But it’s definitely cool having a gigantic 4k terminal floating in the air above my bed while my wife reads her book and calls me a turbonerd. :P

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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I still find it quite odd that the west (or at least the US) has decided that we're entitled to a trial period with things we purchase. It's an incredibly wasteful practice and one that isn't at all common in a lot of other places on the planet. I know people who've moved to Europe who were in for a rude awakening when they tried returning things to the local shop just 'cause.

What you’re saying doesn’t make sense. Returns are common around the world. Source: https://www.statista.com/chart/27584/how-common-are-online-r...

Also many places charge restocking fees too. So we aren’t that entitled.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

#147

I am not convinced. First let’s be clear that there is minor ADHD which is a world of focus issues and minor distractions, and then there is catastrophic ADHD which is like living through the movie Momento in a world where memories don’t stick. I live in a household with catastrophic ADHD. I really have no idea what minor ADHD is like, but the last thing catastrophic ADHD needs is a gaming experience. A gaming experi…

When people ask me what my personal experience of adhd is, I describe it as being the worlds best street magician--except I'm also the mark--and I suck at making things reappear.

Oh, I'm using that!

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Did it work fine?

Honestly it wasn’t bad at all! I’m sort of surprised how nice it was to work with using that setup. I had a little bit of trouble because the terminal/ssh app I like on my iPad (Blink) doesn’t work well at all on AVP, so I had to find another one. I ended up with La Termina which has a UX built for AVP. I think my only other complaints would be these: 1. Scrolling in Safari can be annoying depending on the website. L…

Thanks. There is a market for us turbonerds coding in bed in a VR.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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post #59

About the ADHD part: I don't know whether I have ADHD but I do lose focus quickly once I figure out how to solve a problem, before doing any implementation -- after all the implementation, however long it could take, is boring and uninteresting comparing to figuring out how to implement. So what if I get myself a Raspberry Pi 8GB and jumps into VSCode and VSCode only? Is it possible to make a VSCode "terminal" that o…

As a fellow-sufferer of attention deficit, I am the same way. Once I've mapped out a solution, I mentally checkout and procrastinate on doing the actual implementation. One thing that's helped me is by practicing "Deep Work" by absolutely resisting any urge to check my phone during that 45 minute focus time (like pomodoro technique). Last month, I prototyped a desktop app of a blinking border to assist with getting i…

Thanks. I think for me, going deep is really good. Pomodoro never worked for me as I prefer to wrap up everything, or at least one milestone in one shot, so I have to spend hours. Good luck for the app BTW!

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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You were doing it. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuVhCIQgfQ .

Interesting. I definitely have an internal universe, but I've been trying for almost a decade to access it. Meditation does not work unless I'm on certain drugs, all of which that are legal having stopped working for that purpose. The only way I have found is to find another real person and actually describe it to them as I explore. If there is nobody else there, it is as if my internal universe does not even exist.…

I found this was a really comprehensive intro to starting meditation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34882432
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