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Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by doorhammer »

dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

This feels like an unnecessarily derisive take on a blog post where the author seems to just be expressing a personal experience.

I read it as saying "this thing has some major limitations that forced me to slow down, which is actually valuable for me because I have ADHD. I didn't expect that and it's kind of neat, but who knows if that's actually valuable long term. Also here are some other details about the device imo"

As someone who also has pretty severe adhd, I relate to the idea that barriers to impulsivity can be really valuable and it was interesting to read about someone experiencing that unintentionally. It makes me feel more connected to the world of people like me. I didn't come away thinking they're suggesting I buy one because I have adhd, honestly, I came away being _less_ likely to get one because of the author's description of their experience.

It was just an experience another human found neat and wanted to put on their blog. I personally like when people feel comfortable and inspired to share like that.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by outcoldman »

With VisionPro I feel again like MBP M1 just came out. You definitely a very cool technology in front of you, but at the same time, you also see how many things aren't ready, and you always need to figure out hoops and various workarounds to make it to work. But with the time M1/M2/M3 improved soo much. I am keeping my Vision Pro not for the experience that we got right now (well, not only) but also for the one that I hope to experience with various app releases and updates. WWDC 2024 is coming, and I am sure there is going to be a huge VisionOS update.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by nozzlegear »

globular-toast wrote: post #66
dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I don't even get why people spend money on this stuff. You're just paying an idiot tax because you're a sucker for marketing. Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price. Or it will just turn out to be a silly gimmick and they'll save the time and money entirely. Stuff like 3D TVs come to mind. The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to…

Why wait 5 years when you can wait 10?

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by doorhammer »

austin-cheney wrote: post #40

I am not convinced. First let’s be clear that there is minor ADHD which is a world of focus issues and minor distractions, and then there is catastrophic ADHD which is like living through the movie Momento in a world where memories don’t stick. I live in a household with catastrophic ADHD. I really have no idea what minor ADHD is like, but the last thing catastrophic ADHD needs is a gaming experience. A gaming experi…

When people ask me what my personal experience of adhd is, I describe it as being the worlds best street magician--except I'm also the mark--and I suck at making things reappear.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by lern_too_spel »

outcoldman wrote: post #82

With VisionPro I feel again like MBP M1 just came out. You definitely a very cool technology in front of you, but at the same time, you also see how many things aren't ready, and you always need to figure out hoops and various workarounds to make it to work. But with the time M1/M2/M3 improved soo much. I am keeping my Vision Pro not for the experience that we got right now (well, not only) but also for the one that…

Why not wait until it is useful before purchasing it? I know plenty of people who bought the Apple Silicon Macs too early, and their productivity dropped because too many things didn't work.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by maximus-decimus »

globular-toast wrote: post #66
dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I don't even get why people spend money on this stuff. You're just paying an idiot tax because you're a sucker for marketing. Someone who waits, say, 5 years before getting something like this will get more enjoyment out of it at a fraction of the price. Or it will just turn out to be a silly gimmick and they'll save the time and money entirely. Stuff like 3D TVs come to mind. The "patient gamers" subreddit seems to…

You would think that on Hacker News, people would understand that being excited about new experimental tech isn't the same as being an idiot.

You're allowed to like tech even is it's not yet practical or even when it clearly will never be.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by gnicholas »

> Putting myself in an "environment" also seems to have the effect of eliminating distractions from the outside world. I'm not glancing around at the stuff in my office every time I pause to think.

I found that reading glasses had a similar effect for me. It helped me focus on the book or paper I was looking at and made me less distracted by other people walking by. Of course, it's less useful at preventing computer-based distractions, since they're all at the same focal distance.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by gentleman11 »

zmmmmm wrote: post #10

I routinely use Quest 3 with Immersed to do "focused" work by switching to specific environments that I associate with that. I can also co-work in a room of 5 - 10 other people who are also doing that which generates a little bit of impetus to focus as well. I think if this becomes the only reason to keep the device, for sure explore some other options like Quest 3 and see if it's sufficient. It does a lot more thing…

There are some privacy issues with meta that make me shy about trying their vr ecosystem again.

I met a Facebook recruiter once, maybe 3-4 years ago, who was bragging about how his team was collecting data about the interiors and uses of private indoor spaces.

If I'm in a charitable mood, I’ll take that to mean “contents of stores and restaurants,” but I’m not always so optimistic

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by sneak »

grecy wrote: post #27
somewhereoutth wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really get the computer monitor replacement argument - if you are creating as opposed to consuming content (i.e. coding/designing/authoring), then you are going to need a rather better input medium than what a virtual keyboard/mouse will provide. And this better medium, whether keyboard, trackpad, mouse or something else, will be sitting on a desk - with your monitors! If you want more/bigger monitors, then g…

You can use any physical mouse/keyboard as input for the Vision Pro, including the ones built into your laptop.

I understand you cannot use bluetooth mice with it.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by ianbutler »

ionwake wrote: post #79
ianbutler wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in my experience, it’s super smooth. There is clunkyness with actually selecting a screen when multiple things are layered however.

yeah but smooth != fast. But thank you for replying! It sounds like you like it mate.

Fair, I’d say it’s fast as well and yes I definitely like it. I hope Meta takes note at how a good software experience can be, because while their hardware is good, they’ve been asleep at the wheel with software and Apple showed that in spades in so many areas of the Vision Pro (but not all of them)
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