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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#111
Long overdue transparency. Sometimes these are innocuous or warranted removals, but there is also an element of protectionism at play. And that may not even be due to mod actions, but blocks of users who all flag articles to get them pushed to no mans land.

There are companies who if you submit a negative post about, within short order the post is pushed out of view of the top pages.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#112
>it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news

I know there are already a handful of comments about this line, but wow! It bears repeating: My eyebrows almost shot off the top of my head when I read this. What kinds of things does the author find easy to believe??

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#113

I started collecting the /news feed something like 7 years ago in a script, I think it's still running. It's fascinating watching stories get dropped or auto-killed and then running stats to find out what the algorithm is trimming. I think I started it because there'd be things changed or removed and you couldn't tell unless you had looked at it before it was culled. At some point I'll kill the linode it's running on…

> It's fascinating watching stories get dropped or auto-killed and then running stats to find out what the algorithm is trimming.

So what did you learn ??

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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> In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. I don't understand why this story was removed: "It turns out the six-feet social-distancing rule had no scientific basis", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39200511 On a forum with an overwhelmingly science-minded audience, it bothers me that an important topic like that is deemed untouchable.

I think reading the top comment on that post provides plenty of explanation why users would flag that post. Perhaps you're trying not to understand.

Are you asserting that, if the title had remained "Anthony Fauchi [sic] Fesses Up" it would have remained, unflagged?

Maybe you should Submit it again with the original title, and see what happens.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#115
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Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

Garry Tan seems to benefit from this system as well. Nothing sensationalist about tracking his awful behavior.

We haven't touched those stories except reduce the penalties on them (user flags mostly) and moderate them less than we normally would (per https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...). I put one back on the front page last night despite this contradicting every principle HN stands for—every other principle, that is, than the first one, which is that we moderate HN less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is part of a story.

I posted detailed explanations in those other threads:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39224560

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39210947

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39172045

If you (or anyone) read those explanations and still have a question that I haven't answered there, I'd like to know what it is. These practices have been in place for many years and haven't changed.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Altman story was likely a dupe (or triplicate)

Why not redirect to the original story?

moderators are not omnipresent, and some times the users are faster to react than the mods.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#117
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Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

Garry Tan seems to benefit from this system as well. Nothing sensationalist about tracking his awful behavior.

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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#118
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't want to see Altman's fearmongering and hyperbolic statements His statement wasn't even hyperbolic or fearmongering.....? He just extrapolated based on current amounts of compute and estimated a possible model size that could be equivalent to AGI (based on current architecture). Training a model of that size would require too much electricity. That was his point.

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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#119
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It'd be interesting to see removed vs flagged, if you can scrape flag kills. The flagging system is a great utility, but certain things (e.g. anything pro-Musk) get mass flagged for emotional reasons.

> certain things (e.g. anything pro-Musk) get mass flagged for emotional reasons.

Lots of Musk stuff, including positive stuff, on the front page. Yesterday there was a story about petabytes of data on the Starlink laser network, based only on Starlink PR afaict.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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post #99
post #89

> In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. I don't understand why this story was removed: "It turns out the six-feet social-distancing rule had no scientific basis", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39200511 On a forum with an overwhelmingly science-minded audience, it bothers me that an important topic like that is deemed untouchable.

I think reading the top comment on that post provides plenty of explanation why users would flag that post. Perhaps you're trying not to understand.

> I think reading the top comment on that post provides plenty of explanation why users would flag that post.

That top comment complains that the HN title is WSJ's informative subheading instead of its clickbaity headline.

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