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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by wolverine876 »

next_xibalba wrote: post #76
hk__2 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are a lot of comments in this thread thanking “the mods” and I didn’t realize there was a mod team cultivating the front page. Can anyone attest to this? https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/th...

I don’t get the impression from that article that Daniel and Scott are curating the front page in the way the thanks in this thread suggest. I am still of the impression that the front page composition is decided by upvotes, downvotes, and flags. Contrary to the implication in this repos’ text.

What is that impression based on?

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by matt_heimer »

> The assumption is that a Story cannot go from the top 30 to a position higher than 90 in a single minute, without having been explicitly removed.

I'm not sure this is a valid assumption. https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39094387 looks to be a story that dropped to the thirties pretty quickly. Maybe due to other suddenly popular content?

Looking at the 13 stories listed for Monday, January 22, 2024 only 3 seem to have been removed from HN. The other 10 stories still exist.

The HP story, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39087776, was likely kicked from the front page due to being a duplicate of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39060793

The Ford story, https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39089599, seems to be incorrectly detected.

Honestly only 3 or 4 out of 13 look like possible moderation to me. And they don't seem bad. Does a story about razor wire in Texas belong on hacker news? I'm in Texas so the story is of interest to me but I'd expect to hear about it elsewhere, not on HN.

Overall it just makes me think HN is doing a good job at moderation.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by dontupvoteme »

passwordoops wrote: post #57
TheCoreh wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

The Altman story was likely a dupe (or triplicate)

Why not redirect to the original story?

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by wolverine876 »

nottorp wrote: post #55
threatofrain wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's dubious that HN mods think that way of Altman though.

s/mods/users? everyone can flag stories.

It's not flags (or not sufficient to remove the story):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231055

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by wolverine876 »

next_xibalba wrote: post #29

Don’t the vast majority of these get removed via flags from users? Edit: I’m not asking a rhetorical question. There are a lot of comments in this thread thanking “the mods” and I didn’t realize there was a mod team cultivating the front page. Can anyone attest to this?

That's not what the application is measuring:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231055

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by IshKebab »

lars_francke wrote: post #10

> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news. I am, so you can believe it. But: I don't flag things that I'm tired of.

Yeah me too and I also wouldn't flag them. I flag things that are false or misleading or just especially stupid.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by wtallis »

ggdG wrote: post #89

> In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. I don't understand why this story was removed: "It turns out the six-feet social-distancing rule had no scientific basis", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39200511 On a forum with an overwhelmingly science-minded audience, it bothers me that an important topic like that is deemed untouchable.

I think reading the top comment on that post provides plenty of explanation why users would flag that post. Perhaps you're trying not to understand.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by wolverine876 »

matt_heimer wrote: post #92

> The assumption is that a Story cannot go from the top 30 to a position higher than 90 in a single minute, without having been explicitly removed. I'm not sure this is a valid assumption. https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39094387 looks to be a story that dropped to the thirties pretty quickly. Maybe due to other suddenly popular content? Looking at the 13 stories listed for Monday, January 22, 2024 only 3…

> Does a story about razor wire in Texas belong on hacker news? I'm in Texas so the story is of interest to me but I'd expect to hear about it elsewhere, not on HN.

Perhaps in TX you don't realize it, but it's a big national story, implicating the Constitution, federal authority, even the Civil War.

It's political, for sure; but it's not local.

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