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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by threatofrain »

nottorp wrote: post #44
TheCoreh wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

YMMV. I don't want to see Altman's fearmongering and hyperbolic statements. At this point he's indistinguishable from a bitcoin advocate or a tv preacher.

It's dubious that HN mods think that way of Altman though.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by wolverine876 »

> Using the official HN API, the service fetches 90 Top Stories every minute and makes a comparison with the first 30 Top Stories (i.e. the Front Page) fetched the previous minute. It logs all missing Stories here. The assumption is that a Story cannot go from the top 30 to a position higher than 90 in a single minute, without having been explicitly removed.

The OP's hypothesis is that, if rank drops from top-30 to below top-90 (I think "higher than 90" is a typo?), in less than a minute, then it must be due to moderator action.

Is that true?

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by gnicholas »

I’ve wanted something like this for years. My top requests would be to offer this as a standalone separate site, with sorting in reverse chron order, and an easy way to click into the comments for each story. Right now I can click into the info for the link, and to the outlink, but there doesn’t appear to be a one-click path to the HN comments themselves.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by gamepsys »

It's great that they offer the source code so you can modify it and run the program on your own hardware to make sure stories aren't being removed from the stories removed from the Hacker News front page list.

While the above is me joking, I appreciate the extreme transparency that showing code and explaining methodology provides. This adds more credibility than any other single thing the author could have done.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#55

Post by nottorp »

threatofrain wrote: post #51
nottorp wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YMMV. I don't want to see Altman's fearmongering and hyperbolic statements. At this point he's indistinguishable from a bitcoin advocate or a tv preacher.

It's dubious that HN mods think that way of Altman though.

s/mods/users? everyone can flag stories.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#56

Post by hk__2 »

next_xibalba wrote: post #29

Don’t the vast majority of these get removed via flags from users? Edit: I’m not asking a rhetorical question. There are a lot of comments in this thread thanking “the mods” and I didn’t realize there was a mod team cultivating the front page. Can anyone attest to this?

> There are a lot of comments in this thread thanking “the mods” and I didn’t realize there was a mod team cultivating the front page. Can anyone attest to this?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/th...

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by passwordoops »

TheCoreh wrote: post #36
a12k wrote: post #3

Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

The Altman story was likely a dupe (or triplicate)

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by wiredfool »

TheCoreh wrote: post #36
a12k wrote: post #3

Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

Possibly dups too.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by [deleted] »

pleasantpeasant wrote: post #47
_uqca wrote: post #32

i feel like every news source, forum, link aggregator, ... has its own target audience and scope of topics that make for productive discussion, its own biases and predispositions, its own trolls and need for pruning and moderation. i feel like yes of course there are many things i disagree with on this site. but ultimately i value the information shared and the discussion enough to keep coming back. any relationship…

I think you're going to see people start leaving Reddit as the IPO approaches and many will be coming to HN or other reddit-clones. Half the comments on Reddit really do seem to be made by bots, you can easily tell when you look at their post history.

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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by calibas »

I wrote something similar, it's a simple Python tool that estimates what a story's rank should be based on the score, and compares it to the actual rank. It's rough and only tested on Win 10 so far:

https://github.com/calibas/hacker-newd/blob/main/hacker-newd...

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