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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news. I think the answer to this is... go set up your our LLM News web site and build a community. I really love HN but I wanted more retro computing and gaming news so I created by own site ( https://twostopbits.com/ ) using the HN source code. It's not hard. Go build the thing you want and moderat…

> It's not hard. Go build the thing you want and moderate it.

Does the source code include moderating tools, or is it just a bare bones aggregator with a default ranking algo?

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#62
Spammer wonders why stories are being "removed".

How can you complain about your submissions getting hundreds of upvotes and a bunch of discussion over the last 4 months only. That's a decent amount of eyeballs.

Other than the blatant offtopic/spam ones, most of them are just ones that have drifted away and are old news, or flagged, or dupes. It's driven by the flow of the site and its users.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

YMMV. I don't want to see Altman's fearmongering and hyperbolic statements. At this point he's indistinguishable from a bitcoin advocate or a tv preacher.

> I don't want to see Altman's fearmongering and hyperbolic statements

His statement wasn't even hyperbolic or fearmongering.....?

He just extrapolated based on current amounts of compute and estimated a possible model size that could be equivalent to AGI (based on current architecture).

Training a model of that size would require too much electricity.

That was his point.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#64
> In the case of the first, the Story was among the first on the Front Page, until its title was changed from "Stable Diffusion Turbo on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 generates an image in 29 minutes" to "OnnxStream: Stable Diffusion XL 1.0 Base on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2". This effectively "killed" the Story.

> In the case of the second, the Story was in third place on the Front Page, less than an hour after the submission. In this case it was simply removed from the Front Page.

With repeatedly getting flagged articles like this, at some point you have to begin to wonder if you are not simply spamming the community by trying to promote your links.

I get that people want to promote their stuff but the community has preferences too. The community can get tired of LLM articles reaching the front page everyday! The community can refuse to be spammed and the community can flag articles!

> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news.

Denial? Why is it so hard to believe that HN users would get tired LLM-related news. I get tired of it myself but I don't have flagging privilege. I find it very believable that HN users who have the flagging privilege might want to flag LLM-related news.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#65

> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news. I am, so you can believe it. But: I don't flag things that I'm tired of.

If I could, I'd hibernate until such time as I didn't have to hear about generative AI anymore.

I agree, I don't find it very interesting.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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I started collecting the /news feed something like 7 years ago in a script, I think it's still running. It's fascinating watching stories get dropped or auto-killed and then running stats to find out what the algorithm is trimming. I think I started it because there'd be things changed or removed and you couldn't tell unless you had looked at it before it was culled. At some point I'll kill the linode it's running on, maybe move it to a Lambda, push the database to GitHub.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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post #3

Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

https://www.nasa.gov/solar-system/asteroids/nasa-system-pred...

Really? A NASA report, on the official .gov site? Maybe the comments were horrible but that seems right in the middle of what HN is interested in.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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post #12

> I sent an email to the moderator. @dang, who was very kind and quick in his response, explained to me that the Story had been flagged by users even without being explicitly [flagged], and that he could therefore only hypothesize the causes of the flag. Maybe this is a consequence of Hacker News not having a way to downvote stories? I only flag stories that are blatant violation of HN's guidelines: SPAM, politics, r…

Yea, I suspect a sizable number of people use "flag" as a mega-downvote for things they passionately don't like, rather than for policy violations and spam.

For anyone that is concerned about over flagging, please consider turning on showdead and vouching responsibly!

If as many people thoughtfully vouched as maliciously flagged it may be less of an issue.

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