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Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

ajdude wrote: post #5

Whenever I set up a new computer for older family members, despite it being windows 11, I always install open shell[1] and retro bar[2]. Between the two, I've made the operating system look very close to Windows XP visually, and they always appreciate it. [1] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu [2] https://github.com/dremin/RetroBar

How do those compare to WindowBlinds and Start11?

I'm still on Win10, but I use WindowBlinds to skin it to look like Win2K. Eventually, when I upgrade my CPU, I'm going to need Win11 to get the Intel Thread Director, so I know I'm going to need to either buy a new version of WindowBlinds and Start11. Would be nice to run a FOSS alternative.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by joshspankit »

acuozzo wrote: post #335
joshspankit wrote: post #311

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When you’re able to get a decent first-pass response on the prompt “AI, make me a specialized film restoration application and make it F/OSS”, will that be enough to tip the scales?

If you're trying to suss-out if I'm some kind of Windows fanboy in disguise, then trust me when I say I'm not. I have one beefy Windows machine for this hobby. Everything else in the house is some flavor of BSD or GNU/Linux. Now, if you're asking if I'll pursue competitors (AI written or not) offering the best-in-class tools for what I wish to accomplish, then of course I will, regardless of any potential ideological…

I respect your cutting through to uncover the question behind the question.

There was a little bit of sussing you out as a Windows fanboy, but more I was projecting to understand the future power of AI for people like us who use the most effective tools even if they live on Windows.

I actually kind of doubt that companies will go through the back catalog of excellent tools and remake them (people are quite attached to quirks and there’s typically a small market) so is there a tipping point where we muddle through the inconvenience of “No, not quite like that AI, like this” to finally get the same functionality in a way where we are totally independent of Windows? Or will we possibly never reach that point and instead wait however long it takes for AI to handle all the functionality of all the effective tools? It’s a question in the back of my mind.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by gymbeaux »

smegsicle wrote: post #294
gymbeaux wrote: post #287

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Adobe Suite, Office, hardware specific software like those for controlling RGB lighting, Visual Studio, et. al

what's up with the rumor that adobe doesn't install on ltsc?

I haven't heard that, I'm just listing the software I would miss on Linux*

*I have been using Linux and Wine for over 10 years and while one can technically install whatever Windows software, even if it's on a Windows VM inside of Linux... the experience is lackluster.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by wkat4242 »

toastercat wrote: post #313
zakki wrote: post #265

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So do you know how to buy W10 LTSC license? Should it via MS Partners? Can we buy it directly from MS?

The only way to get a W10 LTSC license for a single user is through illegitimate channels. If you look on Reddit, you can usually find out how to obtain it. The ISO itself can officially be downloaded from Microsoft servers.

If you're on msdn you can also get it

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by southernplaces7 »

rkagerer wrote: post #248
dijit wrote: post #40

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With the risk of linking to 4chan; there is a /g/ guide to how to navigate Windows and it recommends exactly this.[0] However: I do not publicly endorse software piracy, and so do not recommend using this guide; legitimate LTSC licenses are only possible to come by for Businesses with a minimum spend of 5 licenses.[1] :( [0]: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/98121318 [1]: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/…

My god how I would happily pay 5X per copy for a Windows that had all the shitty new garbage culled out (like ALL the Telemetry and forced updates).

Since pretty much nobody here wants to link to it because blah blah blah. Here's the link for a nice clean edition of Windows 10 LTSC that you can even activate right through the same site. Amusing fearfulness in a "hacker" site.

https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media.html

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by plandis »

Almondsetat wrote: post #90
plandis wrote: post #16

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Good quality Nvidia drivers and support for games, mostly.

Why are people so obsessed with gaming? It's unbelievable how this industry has gotten so many people hooked, to the point of accepting kernel level monitoring

I like to play a game called Overwatch that doesn’t have kernel level anti cheat, afaik, but I’ve never been able to get it running smoothly enough on Linux even with Nvidia closed source drivers.

I don’t think I’m obsessed with gaming but it is a hobby and if I have to boot into Windows to play, so be it.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by ornornor »

southernplaces7 wrote: post #366
rkagerer wrote: post #248

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My god how I would happily pay 5X per copy for a Windows that had all the shitty new garbage culled out (like ALL the Telemetry and forced updates).

Since pretty much nobody here wants to link to it because blah blah blah. Here's the link for a nice clean edition of Windows 10 LTSC that you can even activate right through the same site. Amusing fearfulness in a "hacker" site. https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media.html

Thank you!

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by ornornor »

exabrial wrote: post #127

I don't understand why people like XP so much. Windows 2000 was the ultimate OS: lean, fast, focused, and absolutely zero crapware installed. No stupid internet accounts needed to run your local OS and it did what it was supposed to do.

I loved w2k, it was the last good windows imho and it’s around the time when I dropped windows for more open alternatives.

AFAIK, win2000 didn’t do games very well. I think I remember it not supporting d3d or OpenGL, or something along these lines. It’s problematic when most of the value in windows for home users is the gaming library.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by ornornor »

fellowniusmonk wrote: post #209
dagmx wrote: post #181

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Windows 2000 wasn’t the version before Windows XP for most people though. It was Windows ME. Most people would not have experienced 2000. Windows 2000 was the last of the separate business targeted operating systems. Therefore I’d argue the nostalgia isn’t misplaced because most people under 45 just couldn’t have the nostalgia for 2000 to begin with. XP unified the two lines into one OS with multiple SKUs instead of…

I was 15 doing local tech support and network admin for small businesses. Windows ME was a pile of memory leaking trash, constant BSODs, reboots multiple times a day, it was an unbelievably hostile OS with piss poor performance. 98se was so much better than ME it's a joke. 2000 was what I ran personally until XP stopped sucking (which if memory serves was with service pack 2.) Being from that era of IE 5.5 and 6 I st…

They’ve invested a lot in making people forget and improve their image. GitHub, VSCode, WSL, typescript… I feel old remembering a time when Microsoft was openly evil (“Linux is cancer”) and I’m not even 40. I think the new generation only knows the “nice” MS, Xbox, etc. Not the underhanded greedy corp even though they’re still trying to shove a subpar browser and OS down our throats. It’s just less obvious nowadays.
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