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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by joshspankit »

acuozzo wrote: post #256
voidfunc wrote: post #149

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Why run Windows at that point? I'm a hybrid person. I run Linux for my work and dev OS and Windows for gaming and day to day shenanigans. If you're just going to strip Windows down to this weird broken minimal thing tho why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux. I dont really get the point of the effort people go through trying to make Microsoft products something…

> Why run Windows at that point? I use several specialized film restoration applications which are developed for Windows exclusively. Nothing comparable exists in the F/OSS world and I'm not prepared to trade work output quality for ideological purity.

When you’re able to get a decent first-pass response on the prompt “AI, make me a specialized film restoration application and make it F/OSS”, will that be enough to tip the scales?

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by bee_rider »

ksec wrote: post #310

I think the keypoint here isn't the graphics design, or animations etc as many commented. It is its simplicity. All Modern software tried to introduce more features, and more ways to access the same features or functions. I am not sure if such thing exists or anyone have any pointers. Consider 90% of my time on computer are spend within the browser. I wonder what would it be like if the OS had nothing . Just a Deskto…

You could install a Linux distro that doesn’t bring a ton along with it (arch will do), install a window manager (not a desktop environment), and go from there.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by toastercat »

zakki wrote: post #265
toastercat wrote: post #233

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> why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux A PC with Windows 10 LTSC beats PS5/Xbox in terms in game availability and backwards compatibility. It also unsurprisingly still beats Linux + Proton in terms of compability. It is still Windows after all. Console gaming is not comparable to PC gaming at this point. Using LTSC over regular W10 affords you a more stable s…

So do you know how to buy W10 LTSC license? Should it via MS Partners? Can we buy it directly from MS?

The only way to get a W10 LTSC license for a single user is through illegitimate channels. If you look on Reddit, you can usually find out how to obtain it. The ISO itself can officially be downloaded from Microsoft servers.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by toastercat »

ssbash wrote: post #296
toastercat wrote: post #233

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> why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux A PC with Windows 10 LTSC beats PS5/Xbox in terms in game availability and backwards compatibility. It also unsurprisingly still beats Linux + Proton in terms of compability. It is still Windows after all. Console gaming is not comparable to PC gaming at this point. Using LTSC over regular W10 affords you a more stable s…

I paid $350 for my Xbox Series X. I then spent another $120 for 1.5 years of Game Pass Ultimate (there’s an arbitrage method to convert an existing Game Pass Core sub). For a casual gamer, like myself, I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility. It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts. I can cheaply buy…

> I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility.

You can get a PC that can run modern games for far less than $1500; in fact, slapping a ~$200 GPU into a ~$200 office PC will get you 80% of the way there.

> It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts.

The opposite is far more common from what I can tell (console versions are botched and have performance issues, f.e., Cyberpunk).

> I can cheaply buy used physical games and still have access the vast majority of the Xbox back catalog. 100% of the Xbox One library, 600+ Xbox 360 games, and 90+ Xbox games.

I can more cheaply buy digital games on Steam, have access to most of the once-Xbox-exclusive games that were inevitably ported to PC by Microsoft, and also play the thousands of PC-exclusive games. I also have access to emulators, and now, Sony is even porting their PlayStation games to PC. Also, Xbox Game Pass works on PC.

> The official Xbox Live servers for these older games are still up and maintained. It’s seamless for my non-technical friends and I to get into a COD MW2 lobby. On PC there are only community servers, and the cheaters are way more common.

I don't play Call of Duty so don't know much about that, but for most games, you will generally always have more server options and legacy game revival projects on PC.

I think the trade off makes sense if you like options. If you just want to play mainstream games like COD, consoles probably make more sense. Frankly, I'm happy that a game I bought on Steam in 2008 still works on my PC in 2024. I'm not happy that I can't play a PS3 game I bought in 2008 on my PS5.

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Post by PH95VuimJjqBqy »

bongodongobob wrote: post #168
mahkoh wrote: post #138

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You had audio latency issues and instead of googling "Linux audio latency", you spent several hours installing distributions, kernels, graphics drivers (?), and UIs (??). You could have avoided this by doing what any windows user would have done in your situation. >This article describes how to configure your system for recording, mixing and playing back audio as well as using it to synthesize and generate sounds. Th…

Of course I started with that. I then I noticed screen tearing in my browser (fresh install of Ubuntu 22.04). Oh ok, well maybe I've got the wrong drivers and it's eating CPU. Run all the tests to ensure I have the right Nvidia drivers. All checks out. Then I find something about hybrid graphics mode. Sure enough, I needed to set my graphics to discreet mode in the BIOS. Screen tearing is now gone. Well now that I'm…

that description is a far cry from your original claim that it took you that much effort to get _audio_ working under linux with low latency.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by jlokier »

bongodongobob wrote: post #45
swells34 wrote: post #4

Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.

I'm coming off of an entire weekend spent trying to get acceptable latency for audio recording in Linux. Just a midi controller to play a simple 3x oscillator VST with better than 250ms latency was my test case. I tried different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, different kernels, different window managers, different graphics drivers, stripping things out of the system etc. After going down the rabbit hole, I finally ripp…

> trying to get acceptable latency for audio recording

> In Windows or MacOS I would have been up and running immediately.

I watched a couple of videos yesterday by musicians using Ableton on their new Apple M3 Max laptops with latest MacOS, talking about how it was dropping audio frames audibly during live performances

I don't think it's safe to assume MacOS would reliably solve your audio latency problem. You may have to experiment.

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Post by nurettin »

toastercat wrote: post #314
ssbash wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid $350 for my Xbox Series X. I then spent another $120 for 1.5 years of Game Pass Ultimate (there’s an arbitrage method to convert an existing Game Pass Core sub). For a casual gamer, like myself, I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility. It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts. I can cheaply buy…

> I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility. You can get a PC that can run modern games for far less than $1500; in fact, slapping a ~$200 GPU into a ~$200 office PC will get you 80% of the way there. > It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts. The opposite is far more common from what I can tell (conso…

> console versions are botched and have performance issues, f.e., Cyberpunk

Wasn't that game broken on all platforms?

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by DANmode »

Eduard wrote: post #299
DANmode wrote: post #143

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I've had over ten of each.

Cancel meetings - updates then can't bork your system just before them.

Just started carrying two machines, or having a remote desktop standing by to present via someone else's screen.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by wruza »

mycall wrote: post #301
GSGBen wrote: post #167

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hmailserver is the replacement you want for this.

It is no longer under development.

That happens when you finish your roadmap and call it done. It’s frustrating that the modern sense of it became automatically negative.

This is an actual claim if someone is interested: https://www.hmailserver.com/state

On SHA-1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-1

As of 2020, chosen-prefix attacks against SHA-1 are practical.[6][8] As such, it is recommended to remove SHA-1 from products as soon as possible and instead use SHA-2 or SHA-3. Replacing SHA-1 is urgent where it is used for digital signatures.

Digging further: https://www.hmailserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40568

Tl;dr: it uses sha256 by default and only has sha1 for backwards compatibility, which is considered insecure today. Critical updates are still there.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by wruza »

voidfunc wrote: post #149
logifail wrote: post #37

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> Microsoft actually makes the version of Windows that people want, but it’s called LTSC and they really don’t want you to have it. Of the devices that still run Windows in our home, all but one of them run some version of LTSC. > No bloat, no ads, no forced updates, virtually nothing installed by default, and minimal telemetry. No Store, no Cortana, no Edge. What's not to like? ;)

Why run Windows at that point? I'm a hybrid person. I run Linux for my work and dev OS and Windows for gaming and day to day shenanigans. If you're just going to strip Windows down to this weird broken minimal thing tho why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux. I dont really get the point of the effort people go through trying to make Microsoft products something…

Because

1) It’s neither broken nor weird. It’s just that same windows without preinstalled crapware, think XP times. I’m using it since 2018 and never met any version-related issue.

2) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38529637

I don’t get the point of going through this effort either.

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