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Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by Almondsetat »

louthy wrote: post #55
tiffanyh wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux" You mean, are present in Linux TODAY . Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. Windows XP marked the begin of an era when corporations replaced analog processes with digital. It sounds so foreign now, but in the late 90s - it was still common for corporations to send printe…

> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

It's always interesting to see people complain about linux installation without mentioning the distro chosen and what they did.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by louthy »

bongodongobob wrote: post #69
louthy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

Yup. I have two separate playbooks for my laptop and desktop for all the quirky shit that needs to happen to get a working install. Yes, you can get to a usable desktop pretty quickly. But getting everything right is still an hour or better process, post-install, in 2024.

> But getting everything right is still an hour or better process, post-install, in 2024…

… for someone who knows what they’re doing. Anyone non-technical would be terrified of the steps needed to get a Linux install into a good state for their machine. It could easily take them days to get a setup that's sound (depending on the level of driver support for their hardware).

To be fair, one of the installs I did was Raspberry PI OS (funnily enough for a Raspberry PI!) - and that was the smoothest Linux install I’ve ever had.

So having a distro tuned to the hardware really does go a long way!

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by sojono »

I'm using Win10 Pro, and I have no ads, no problems with unwanted apps, a sane start menu, and I run almost all non-ms software on top so microsoft's incompetence there is a nonissue. I can also replicate this on win11 but I don't see a reason to upgrade.

The way there is fairly simple, actually:

OOSU Shutup10: this removes pretty much all the annoyances. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Classicshell: Microsoft is never going to make a start menu that doesn't suck again, but others will. http://www.classicshell.net/

Everything search: classicshell comes with a pretty decent windows search replacement, but you should use this instead. It is so, so fast. https://www.voidtools.com/

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by jessriedel »

diggan wrote: post #75
jessriedel wrote: post #33

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It's only $110. How do they discourage people from using it?

Last time I checked, you cannot purchase it as an individual, has to be as a business. And you cannot just purchase one license.

Ahh got it, thanks!

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by DANmode »

malfist wrote: post #57
jessriedel wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only $110. How do they discourage people from using it?

Business only with a minimum of 5 licenses

I think I'm okay with that.

Anyone looking to become a cofounder, with the first order of business being to go in on a pack of LTSC licenses?

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by louthy »

Almondsetat wrote: post #81
louthy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

It's always interesting to see people complain about linux installation without mentioning the distro chosen and what they did.

That just isn’t important. The point is that the average non-techy person would be overwhelmed by the average Linux install. Regardless of distro.

That’s Linux’s biggest cross to bear

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by pstuart »

transcriptase wrote: post #22

Microsoft actually makes the version of Windows that people want, but it’s called LTSC and they really don’t want you to have it. No bloat, no ads, no forced or feature updates, optional security patches only, virtually nothing installed by default, and minimal telemetry.

This is great to know. I'm forced to do some development that's Windows specific but I just need core OS and none of the apps/bloat.

In some ways MS still impresses me (WSL, VSCode) but in so many other ways I'm in awe of how bad the Windows experience is. Case in point: try to do some sort of OS config change and get an opaque hex error code. That's it. Google it and pray.

Obligatory: https://xkcd.com/979/

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by dmitrygr »

ajdude wrote: post #5

Whenever I set up a new computer for older family members, despite it being windows 11, I always install open shell[1] and retro bar[2]. Between the two, I've made the operating system look very close to Windows XP visually, and they always appreciate it. [1] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu [2] https://github.com/dremin/RetroBar

regrettably no arm64 compat for classicshell :(

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by sudohackthenews »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #34
vorticalbox wrote: post #23

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I've been running Linux on my work laptop for 6 years now and Nvidia drives are pretty good.

Assuming you don’t use Wayland of course.

I’m on Fedora 39 and nvidia drivers work great on Wayland (gnome)

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by Almondsetat »

plandis wrote: post #16
swells34 wrote: post #4

Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.

Good quality Nvidia drivers and support for games, mostly.

Why are people so obsessed with gaming? It's unbelievable how this industry has gotten so many people hooked, to the point of accepting kernel level monitoring
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