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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by Podgajski »

ben_w wrote: post #556
Podgajski wrote: post #401

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> This is the kind of broad brush statement that makes people face-palm. A "voltage gated" anything is necessarily affected by electromagnetic fields, because that's what those words mean… It’s not a broadbrush statement, it’s a very specific statement. It’s a statement that this is how EMFs can affect our neurology and our biology. I don’t understand you’re complained about this at all. > Specifically, your brain ce…

> It’s not a broadbrush statement, it’s a very specific statement. It’s a statement that this is how EMFs can affect our neurology and our biology. I don’t understand you’re complained about this at all. That fact you think your statement isn't broadbrush suggests you don't understand the rest of my previous comment. All interactions in your daily life are either the electromagnetic field, or gravity. Even though som…

You’re missing the simplicity of my point. Yes I said EMF affect us, and that was supposed to include everything. The fact that we’re adding new and different EMFs is the point. There’s a very fact that it’s highly unrecognized by psychiatrist that solar flares affect the rate of psychiatric hospitalization. We can’t even get it across to them that even natural occurring EMFs affect mood. If they won’t recognize that effect, why would they recognize RF – EMFs? What is not a broad statement is explaining how these electromagnetic fields affect us, that is by affecting voltage gated ion channels.

Also, you’re thinking as a technician, not as a biologist.

I encourage you if you’re so skeptical to keep reading the papers. I’m not going to post on hacker news anymore because my original comment was flagged and I think that’s censorship and bias in this community that I’m not going to tolerate.

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Post by cynicalsecurity »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #348
elzbardico wrote: post #39

People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

>We will probably won't find a culprit It's capitalism. That's the answer you're looking for

Comrade, have you ever studied the history of the USSR? Give it a try, it's fun. It tells a story how 1/6 of the planet's land surface for 80 years was turned into garbage. They did it with one simple trick.

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Post by shkkmo »

hutzlibu wrote: post #228
ajmurmann wrote: post #94

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When I grew up in Germany you were allowed to drink beer and wine at 16. It's hard to drink yourself into the hospital with those and you are still living with your parents. It provided a safe environment to experiment and learn how to deal with alcohol. At 18 you were able to get a driver's license and start drinking stronger drinks. However, you weren't as excited about the novelty of liquor. It's the only policy a…

"At 18 you were able to get a driver's license and start drinking stronger drinks" You must have lived in a different german reality then. For us it was always easy to get someone else to buy your booze, if it was not already given to you somehow by the older guys. Or if you looked slightly older(I was NEVER asked for ID while buying drinks). Many people in my age group developed a drinking habit - and big surprise,…

I learned to drink in Germany as a 16 year old exchange student and then came back to US and experienced drinking culture here.

You are absolutely correct that German teens have much easier access to hard liquor the American terns. I presume this is some combination of the culture and enforcement realities in Germany compared to the US.

However, I would also (anecdotally) say that the teen culture in Germany around drinking is healthier and less prone to binging than in America. That doesn't mean there aren't problems, but they seemed less frequent and more muted.

My personal hypothesis is that this is because that 16 year limit and the difference in culture meant that teens ate far more likely to drink with and around their family. This facilitates intergenerational knowledge transfer about responsible alcohol usage and reduces risks.

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Post by paledot »

andrewla wrote: post #605

The instinct is to treat this as an apocalyptic change of some sort in society. Here's an alternate framing. The DSM-5 was released in 2013.

Does the DSM-5 redefine "suicide attempt"? Self-reported mental health? This is what is being discussed in TFA. And yes, it is concerning.

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Post by AlexandrB »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #522
roenxi wrote: post #106

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Even if it were one of those things; nothing has changed since 2010 to make them worse. The current negative economic trends set in around 1970, "social mobility" isn't a thing most people ever have access to. I've never been able to figure out what the problem is with climate change was so I dunno; maybe that is fair. But nothing new seems to have happened in the last decade that wasn't also happening in the 2000s.

Microplastics have accumulated as well as other forever chemicals, and awareness of them. It's likely several factors at play and at different severities in different places.

I think awareness of microplastics, etc. kind of undermines this theory. In the 60s we were spraying all kinds of crazy crap - CFCs, DDT - into the environment and plastic was already pretty widely used, while recycling was nowhere in sight. 5-6 decades of additional plastic accumulation is not nothing, but people are much more aware - hence the return of metal water bottles, for example. Many pesticides/herbicides have also either been banned outright or are much harder to get since then.

Plus microplastics likely accumulate over your lifetime - a mental health issue caused by microplastics would show up much more quickly in the elderly of middle aged than in teens.

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Post by indigochill »

65 wrote: post #583

Maybe it's because with corporate Capitalism, we've given up all our freedoms for comfort and safety. Comfort and safety are nice and all, but when we are no longer free to exist in reality, with other people, we get depressed. Our technological overlords (Meta, TikTok, YouTube, Epic Games) have engineered digital life for young people to be as "engaging" as possible for their own benefit. We spread out to the suburb…

> I think Capitalism is a good system, but corporate Capitalism kills freedom.

How do you picture capitalism operating such that corporations don't emerge? In my mind I can't separate the accumulation of capital from corporate capitalism, at least given sufficient time.

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Post by alienicecream »

lapcat wrote: post #297
elzbardico wrote: post #162

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While it may be taboo to say so, I believe this is a strong factor. Most changes in life have tradeoffs, winners and losers. Divorce may be great for the general happiness of the adults involved, but despite all boomer rationalizations in the line "I can raise happy kids if I am not absolutely happy", it generally sucks for kids.

> While it may be taboo to say so What does that even mean? You just said it, and it's also been said by countless people ever since the aforementioned 60s. It's not taboo, it's trite.

If it was trite, there wouldn't be as much resistance to it. It's important to use words accurately. Contentious, controversial, unpopular, iconoclastic maybe, not trite.

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

jader201 wrote: post #20
clipsy wrote: post #10

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Parents weren't GPS tracking their children in the 1990s.

To be fair, GPS tracking may actually make parents feel more comfortable allowing their kids to free roam.

Okay, so it's supervised roam. Who cares? It's much better than keeping your kids at home and only allowing them out on pre-arranged "play dates", which is the other major alternative.
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