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Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by bee_rider » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 5:58 AM UTC

grecy wrote: post #35

Do teens have much to look forward to? Climate change is already causing severe weather events, which are very likely to ramp quickly. Careers are a thing of the past, and it seems like no matter how hard you work you'll never "get ahead" and will be lucky not to spend your life living paycheck to paycheck. Life expectancy has gone down, markedly. Debt is up. New wars.

I’m amazed that I had to read so many comments complaining about social media before I hit this one. How have so few failed to consider the idea that young people might be correctly anxious and worried about the future which looks, in many ways, pretty grim.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by alienicecream » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 5:58 AM UTC

303uru wrote: post #91

latentcall wrote: post #57

Not just social media, but always online mentality. Spending all your time online gives you a skewed perception of the world and I believe being online always is a major negative. Spending time outside is good for you. Socializing with real people in front of you is good also. Not sure if we can ever go back to that without some major catastrophe.

So quick to blame social media, even the article just waves it's hand and makes the assumption. Why not declining social mobility? Why not climate change anxiety? Why not late stage capitalism? Nah, it's always easy to blame Tik Tok as if the chosen release isn't indicative of something much greater going on.

Yeah that's what the kids are thinking about, late-stage capitalism and declining social mobility.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by smeagull » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 5:58 AM UTC

nradov wrote: post #92

geodel wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

~2% or above growth rate is huge when compounded over decades.

You mentioned the "effect of ever faster economic growth across the world". But economic growth hasn't become consistently faster .

Continued growth is alarming on its own.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by HellDunkel » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 5:59 AM UTC

What started as a critical blogpost about wokism turned into an worldwide youth mental illness crisis. This raises a few red flag on me.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by malcolmgreaves » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 6:00 AM UTC

FactKnower69 wrote: post #74

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Yup, noticed this part too and realized the whole post is a joke. It's hard to take someone seriously when they show their ulterior motive in the first paragraphs.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by roenxi » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 6:01 AM UTC

303uru wrote: post #91

latentcall wrote: post #57

Not just social media, but always online mentality. Spending all your time online gives you a skewed perception of the world and I believe being online always is a major negative. Spending time outside is good for you. Socializing with real people in front of you is good also. Not sure if we can ever go back to that without some major catastrophe.

So quick to blame social media, even the article just waves it's hand and makes the assumption. Why not declining social mobility? Why not climate change anxiety? Why not late stage capitalism? Nah, it's always easy to blame Tik Tok as if the chosen release isn't indicative of something much greater going on.

Even if it were one of those things; nothing has changed since 2010 to make them worse. The current negative economic trends set in around 1970, "social mobility" isn't a thing most people ever have access to.

I've never been able to figure out what the problem is with climate change was so I dunno; maybe that is fair. But nothing new seems to have happened in the last decade that wasn't also happening in the 2000s.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by burgerrito » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 6:02 AM UTC

Gigachad wrote: post #11

llIIllIIllIIl wrote: post #5

It’s not just social media. Free roaming and spending time outside on their own or with peers went down dramatically for the last 30 years.

Most urban spaces these days are incredibly depressing. No points of interest within walking distance. Lots of large and difficult to cross roads. Combined with the very real danger of cycling in many places. As well as the loss of small businesses that used to be interspersed in residential areas.

I went to college in area where its absolutely car-dependent, the road sucks for the cars too. Not only it's very hard to walk to anywhere, there's just very little amount of free public spaces, like park for example..

It's very depressing. I wish my country doesn't follow US' style of building a city.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by alienicecream » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 6:02 AM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #39

People blame social media, but they never ask why social media is like that. I think that the cultural changes that lead to that have been running for far more time than people give credit for, and that social media is just the proverbial canary on the mine that made things explicit. Those changes are multi-generational changes, and more probably there are a multitude of factors behind it. Family structure, economy f…

More likely the libertine social movements of the sixties leading to a breakdown of social standards and family life.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by bee_rider » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 6:02 AM UTC

drfuchs wrote: post #41

ChatGTP wrote: post #19

Since my youth climate change has been A wildly depressing concept to grapple with. Environment destruction period. I mean being depressed is one thing, living in a world that's literally cooking at the same time just takes it up a whole other level. I guess in the past, no matter how bad things got for you on a personal level, you could kind of count on the world being there if you got through it, now it's sort of 5…

Disagree. Folks in the 60’s thru 80’s expected global nuclear annihilation with some probability.

It is a different sort of doom. Slim chance of something utterly catastrophic happening all at once vs seemingly inevitable failure to respond day after day, knowingly.

I mean I enjoyed having neither but then most people weren’t lucky enough to grow up in the 90’s.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by hanniabu » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 6:04 AM UTC

latentcall wrote: post #57

Not just social media, but always online mentality. Spending all your time online gives you a skewed perception of the world and I believe being online always is a major negative. Spending time outside is good for you. Socializing with real people in front of you is good also. Not sure if we can ever go back to that without some major catastrophe.

> Spending all your time online gives you a skewed perception of the world

I'd say it gives you an accurate depiction, exposing the shit in the world around us.

Whereas people not online so much are happy because ignorance is bliss.