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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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It’s not just social media. Free roaming and spending time outside on their own or with peers went down dramatically for the last 30 years.

Most urban spaces these days are incredibly depressing. No points of interest within walking distance. Lots of large and difficult to cross roads. Combined with the very real danger of cycling in many places. As well as the loss of small businesses that used to be interspersed in residential areas.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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post #8

Few deny that a drinking age is necessary. We also need a smart phone age. It's quite obvious that many teens are addicted to their phones and the mostly useless content they consume there.

I deny a drinking age is necessary. From what it sounds like, the kids should be out there drinking more!

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I suppose the interesting question is what parents of non-sick teens are doing differently from parents of sick teens. Is it a property that some teens are inherently more resilient or is it a property that some teens have a different home environment? There's many post-hoc explanations possible but the really interesting question to me is how some aren't sick.

Is it just like PTSD where most people who encounter combat trauma just make it back fine and even that one-third of those who encounter extreme combat trauma make it back just fine? Or is it that it's like PTSD where most people never encounter traumatic events of any cause and therefore don't have PTSD.

Identifying what's different about those who are sick and those who aren't will probably yield something interesting.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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It’s not just social media. Free roaming and spending time outside on their own or with peers went down dramatically for the last 30 years.

…partly (mostly?) because of social media addiction.

My son sometimes has a hard time trying to get his friends to spend time outside, because they’d rather be on their phone on TikTok or Snap.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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I’m not a parent nor am I a teen so take my comments with a grain of salt. The one thing that has consistently jumped out to me on this topic is how quickly people seem to jump to convenient answers. Of course you can’t ignore the rise of social media since 2010, but what about the level of control, structure, and surveillance that most young people have been subjected to over the same arc of time? That gets no atten…

The causal link to social media is presented very simply in the article, but I suspect that's mainly because the article is not about diagnosis, but about the prevalence of the pattern.

There is a lot of data to support the social media effect specifically (some referenced in the linked articles from Twenge), and I suspect the next few posts from Rausch will dive in more deeply, so it's not right to claim that they're jumping to convenient answers - these aren't casual bloggers sharing their reckons.

edit: actually there's a heap of related writing on that site, e.g. https://www.afterbabel.com/p/social-media-mental-illness-epi...

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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It’s not just social media. Free roaming and spending time outside on their own or with peers went down dramatically for the last 30 years.

I look at my ability to free roam as a young teen and even late single digits with appreciation and also recognition of the danger. But then I look at the amount of traffic on the streets I crossed on bicycle compared to when I was younger, it makes sense. Even residential streets are less safe from cars.

But I know those aren’t the reasons kids don’t play outside anymore.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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It’s not just social media. Free roaming and spending time outside on their own or with peers went down dramatically for the last 30 years.

Most urban spaces these days are incredibly depressing. No points of interest within walking distance. Lots of large and difficult to cross roads. Combined with the very real danger of cycling in many places. As well as the loss of small businesses that used to be interspersed in residential areas.

You say urban, but this applies to suburban and rural areas as well. If anything, urban areas are the places that have probably resisted these factors the most effectively. For everyone else: "You get a stroad, and you get a stroad, everybody gets a stroad!"

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Since my youth climate change has been A wildly depressing concept to grapple with. Environment destruction period.

I mean being depressed is one thing, living in a world that's literally cooking at the same time just takes it up a whole other level.

I guess in the past, no matter how bad things got for you on a personal level, you could kind of count on the world being there if you got through it, now it's sort of 50/50.

Re: The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that arc largely peaked in the 1980s and 1990s with stranger danger and the satanic panic nonsense. Helicopter parents and people calling social services on unattended kids was already a meme by the 90s.

Parents weren't GPS tracking their children in the 1990s.

To be fair, GPS tracking may actually make parents feel more comfortable allowing their kids to free roam.
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