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Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.
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I find it insane that the workers of the state-owned postal office can decide what mail to deliver based on their personal views. What's next, the mass transit drivers refusing to stop near Tesla's offices? Court workers refusing to accept Tesla's lawsuits? Firemen refusing to put out fire on Tesla's properties?
It’s a strike. How could the workers be prohibited from deciding whether to strike?
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Should a mail worker be able to decide who gets their mail and who don't? For example as a mail worker should I be able to opt out from delivering mail to politicians whose political statements I find deplorable?
You wouldn't have the right to do that by Swedish law. You only have the right to strike.
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Allowing the government owned post office to pick and choose who gets mail just seems like a step too far. But even then the court wasn't forcing them to deliver mail, just allowing that mail to be picked up. And now that's blocked? I just don't understand how one entity can have this much power, in this case they essentially are the government they could demand whatever the hell they wanted. Your choice is to leave…
> I just don't understand how one entity can have this much power, in this case they essentially are the government In Sweden the unions own the government. Nordic countries can not be compared to modern republics such as the USA. There is little separation of powers.
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The workers are compensated from union dues. If the unions hired crime lords, don't you think the companies could hire crime lords, too?
One does not hire a crime lord. The crime lord is your boss. Like in the US, where labour unions were notoriously controlled by violent criminals who used them successfully to extract surplus value that people could create.
Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.
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> Unionization shouldn't be there to disrupt another company. It should be there so you can bargain against your employer. That's what Tesla's employees are doing. The point of a sympathetic strike is so that a small country's workforce can stand up to the likes of Tesla. Tesla can always withdraw from the Nordic market if they don't like the rules (which never changed). They don't want to do that because there is so…
But it's not a sympathetic strike. They're refusing to deliver Tesla's mail. They aren't striking against their employer.
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> the postal service in question is private and works like a private company, though the states of Sweden and Denmark fully owns it. A "private company" that is fully owned by the government is private company in name only; hence my calling it a pseudo-government agency. Especially for a legally-privileged function that is serving postal mail.
Postnord is a bit of a red herring. If the tender to distribute the registration plates had gone to UPS instead, Tesla would have had exactly the same problem with UPS workers.
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And then you can strike by selectively refusing to deliver mail for _one_ entity? I mean, call it whatever you want, but it is a selective strike and a government agency shouldn’t have the right to do that. You either don’t deliver _any_ mail, or you deliver it all. Btw I can totally empathize with the reason of the autoworkers strike, yet not agree with this.
I honestly don't see what so bad about the union action here. Would honestly love to understand what you don't like about this.
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> Unionization shouldn't be there to disrupt another company. It should be there so you can bargain against your employer. That's what Tesla's employees are doing. The point of a sympathetic strike is so that a small country's workforce can stand up to the likes of Tesla. Tesla can always withdraw from the Nordic market if they don't like the rules (which never changed). They don't want to do that because there is so…
But it's not a sympathetic strike. They're refusing to deliver Tesla's mail. They aren't striking against their employer.
These workers are friends, wives, husbands, relatives…
It’s more than justified.