Question to my fellow Scandinavians friends (Hi! from France) :
In this matter, the union agreement is more or less what we call a "convention collective" in France ?
Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in
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#62> "I just don't like anything which creates a lords and peasants sort of thing," This is particularly ironic coming from Elon Musk, net worth $245Bn in a country where “44.2 million people lived in households that had difficulty getting enough food to feed everyone in 2022”
> “44.2 million people lived in households that had difficulty getting enough food to feed everyone in 2022”
That line comes from a report[0] produced by an entity that as of last check had an annual revenue of $6.6T.
They're probably in a better position to address food insecurity than Elon Musk, whose entire net worth, if you could liquidate it at that phantom price of $245B, would pay for one year's food budget for each of those 44.2 million people before running out.
[0]: https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/107703/err-325...
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#64Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.
Accumulating obscene amounts of capital should be legal, but using the guillotine on those people should also be legal
Difficulty: from the perspective of several billion people, your neck looks pretty tasty.
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Considering Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have some of the highest wealth per adult considering their size and labor practices, I think they're doing just fine. Don't wanna play by Swedish rules? Don't go to Sweden.
Based on these events, Sweden absolutely will lose out on billions of FDI. Actions have consequences.
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#66This is a brilliant opportunity to learn about the Nordic Model and the interaction between government, unions and employers.
(Somehow I doubt Elon Musk bothered understanding what he was getting himself into here. This could get really ugly)
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have some of the highest wealth per adult considering their size and labor practices, I think they're doing just fine. Don't wanna play by Swedish rules? Don't go to Sweden.
Based on these events, Sweden absolutely will lose out on billions of FDI. Actions have consequences.
You seem to believe Tesla is the first company to have this problem.
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#69It's quite interesting. They have proxy legal systems in these countries: the unions. Since the union "strikes" are not the same as traditional strikes that I know of, they can sustain the strike much longer. Rather than strikes where workers don't work and don't get paid (and must be compensated from union dues), these strikes involve the majority of workers continuing to work and just shunning one or two companies…
The workers are compensated from union dues. If the unions hired crime lords, don't you think the companies could hire crime lords, too?
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's wild! As a (pseudo-) government agency, it seems like the postal service shouldn't be legally allowed to pick and choose whose mail to deliver and whose to withhold.
They're not allowed to pick and choose themselves. Why and when you can strike and sympathy strike is clearly defined, if you take action outside this framework it would be an illegal strike. And just to add, the postal service in question is private and works like a private company, though the states of Sweden and Denmark fully owns it. Employees are not state employees.
> the postal service in question is private and works like a private company, though the states of Sweden and Denmark fully owns it.
A "private company" that is fully owned by the government is private company in name only; hence my calling it a pseudo-government agency. Especially for a legally-privileged function that is serving postal mail.