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Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.

Doing so would prevent people from striking against unfair conditions, because they would lose the ability to feed themselves, and so would rather suffer bad working conditions. If you care at all about human beings, you should not be able to fire people simply because they voice their concerns about unfair working conditions, etc.

Showing up at work is not mandatory. Only do it if you want.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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post #4

Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.

Doing so would prevent people from striking against unfair conditions, because they would lose the ability to feed themselves, and so would rather suffer bad working conditions. If you care at all about human beings, you should not be able to fire people simply because they voice their concerns about unfair working conditions, etc.

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Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doing so would prevent people from striking against unfair conditions, because they would lose the ability to feed themselves, and so would rather suffer bad working conditions. If you care at all about human beings, you should not be able to fire people simply because they voice their concerns about unfair working conditions, etc.

This is the part where a basic social safety net comes in.

A social safety net helps you if you lose your job, but it does nothing for you when you're on the job.

In Sweden we have a very good social safety net, but just that isn't enough.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doing so would prevent people from striking against unfair conditions, because they would lose the ability to feed themselves, and so would rather suffer bad working conditions. If you care at all about human beings, you should not be able to fire people simply because they voice their concerns about unfair working conditions, etc.

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Striking workers aren’t paid in the first place. Allowing collective bargainers to be fired creates an unbalanced system where employers always have more leverage than workers.

Think about it this way: how do I fire the corporations that I’m forced to patronize? Can you survive modern life without buying a single product from Unilever/Nestle/P&G/J&J? How do you make a video call to your family without Google/Apple/Microsoft/Meta being involved? How do I make a phone call without AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile? Can I buy a microwave that isn’t manufactured by Midea, LG, Panasonic, or Samsung? What about an LCD/OLED panel that isn’t made by LG or Samsung? How do I fly anywhere without Boeing or Airbus? How do I buy a phone/computer without patronizing Foxconn, Qualcomm, TSMC, or Samsung?

Corporations get a captive audience of consumers but they’re allowed to fire people for negotiating the terms of their employment? That doesn’t seem balanced to me.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.

Should woulda. Maybe enough people would strike if your kinda law would go into effect so that the law couldn’t be maintained.

Daily reminder that Norway has NHO, a national union for employers/enterprises. (I don’t like it but it is what is.)

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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> "I just don't like anything which creates a lords and peasants sort of thing,"

This is particularly ironic coming from Elon Musk, net worth $245Bn in a country where

“44.2 million people lived in households that had difficulty getting enough food to feed everyone in 2022”

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