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An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Post by jdiff »

tbrake wrote: post #74
rainonmoon wrote: post #60

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Software is intrinsically tied to politics. It is made to solve problems the priorities of which are arranged by political and ideological frameworks. It or its supporting infrastructure is often funded by political entities. It's written by people whose identities and freedoms are defined by their political context. You can't separate it from politics except in the case where your degree of privilege allows you to i…

The old "everything is politics if you really think about it" gambit, eh?

It's foolishness to believe that politics has no place in daily life when there are people who will make others' entire existences political. It's not a "gambit" if it's patently true.

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Post by kabanda1 »

isodev wrote: post #107
kabanda1 wrote: post #96

My guess is that this has much to do with how much they get out of Africa. It seems like they don't see the benefit of funding those conferences. About LBGTQ This looks to me like the Western behaviour where they sanction the whole country to death because they don't agree with policies of people in power. I am an African. And I live in a country where such laws targeting LGBTQ has been enacted. FYI, Most people here…

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If a Muslim sympathetic to Palestinians go to Germany today, they will not declare it at the airport or in a coffee shop.

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

Xeamek wrote: post #113
0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #94

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Sure, if the DjangoCon Africa organizers had a history of human rights abuses, maybe that would be a reason to not fund them. But having a conference in Tanzania seems like a non-issue. Imagine Tommy Tuberville was on the PSF board, and he stonewalls PSF funding for any conference held in a place where abortion is legal. (According to Tommy, legal abortion is a gross human rights violation.) Do you think this is goin…

I would call that stupid because I don't agree with that view, but yes, he would have a right to not sponsor countries that have legal abortion. So what?

Is that the sort of world you want to live in though -- a world where people are constantly trying to impose their politics on others in this way?

I think we're all better off if we seek a little more compromise than that. It's like a prisoner's dilemma -- sure, you have the "right" to defect, but we're collectively better off if everyone cooperates.

Imagine the warm fuzzy feeling of bonding over a shared love of Python with someone from a different country who looks different from you and may even have different values from you. That was the world the Internet was supposed to create. I think we can still work towards that world, if we decide it's the world we want.

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Post by Longhanks »

isodev wrote: post #107
kabanda1 wrote: post #96

My guess is that this has much to do with how much they get out of Africa. It seems like they don't see the benefit of funding those conferences. About LBGTQ This looks to me like the Western behaviour where they sanction the whole country to death because they don't agree with policies of people in power. I am an African. And I live in a country where such laws targeting LGBTQ has been enacted. FYI, Most people here…

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Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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DeathArrow wrote: post #43
plufz wrote: post #21

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Would they come after you if you brought your same sex partner? If you had a rainbow pin? Does it really matter where the exact limit goes? Would you feel safe being in a country where your sexuality was illegal? No way I would take that chance for a python conference.

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Why should a conference be held somewhere where people will be excluded by virtue of their existence?

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Post by Ralfp »

kabanda1 wrote: post #96

My guess is that this has much to do with how much they get out of Africa. It seems like they don't see the benefit of funding those conferences. About LBGTQ This looks to me like the Western behaviour where they sanction the whole country to death because they don't agree with policies of people in power. I am an African. And I live in a country where such laws targeting LGBTQ has been enacted. FYI, Most people here…

> If you don't feel safe, just skip the conference or attend online.

Well, PSF is not feeling safe about the conference and are skipping it.

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Post by _cenw »

zartusht wrote: post #124
kabanda1 wrote: post #96

My guess is that this has much to do with how much they get out of Africa. It seems like they don't see the benefit of funding those conferences. About LBGTQ This looks to me like the Western behaviour where they sanction the whole country to death because they don't agree with policies of people in power. I am an African. And I live in a country where such laws targeting LGBTQ has been enacted. FYI, Most people here…

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Reductive to pretend this boils down to "don't do events where bad politics" when we're talking about participant safety.

The entirety of the US would get a lifetime ban if we did that.

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Post by bakugo »

zartusht wrote: post #124
kabanda1 wrote: post #96

My guess is that this has much to do with how much they get out of Africa. It seems like they don't see the benefit of funding those conferences. About LBGTQ This looks to me like the Western behaviour where they sanction the whole country to death because they don't agree with policies of people in power. I am an African. And I live in a country where such laws targeting LGBTQ has been enacted. FYI, Most people here…

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>Curiously, it's limited to non-white/non-Western countries. No one is sanctioning Israel for ethnic cleansing, textbook settler colonialism and apartheid going on since 1948.

This is more of a special privilege granted to Israel specifically.

Re: An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation

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Post by stuckinhell »

kabanda1 wrote: post #96

My guess is that this has much to do with how much they get out of Africa. It seems like they don't see the benefit of funding those conferences. About LBGTQ This looks to me like the Western behaviour where they sanction the whole country to death because they don't agree with policies of people in power. I am an African. And I live in a country where such laws targeting LGBTQ has been enacted. FYI, Most people here…

> will the world ever go back to reality ?

Probably not, identity groups all over the world have been brought into direct conflict over limited resources thanks to new communications technology shrinking the world.

LGBTQ is a very powerful political movement in America.

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