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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by MetaWhirledPeas »

deagle50 wrote: post #933
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #820

It's a brutally agressive looking machine - I assume intentionally so. That flat front pretty much guarantees padestrian/cyclist/motorcyclist fatailities in a collision. And over on Ars Technica they say "Musk implied that in a crash with another vehicle, the Cybertruck [...] will destroy the other vehicle." [1] - and presumably therefore kills its occupants too. Opinion: this is the purest physical realisation of th…

Depressing yes, but not because of Musk/Tesla. We'd be surrounded by SUVs, trucks, carjackings, and deer regardless. Unfortunately the best I can do is get the biggest steel cage possible and look out for #1. His statement is clearly hyperbole, if anything it shows that he gave up on protecting pedestrians long ago when it became clear most vehicle buyers and the regulatory bodies don't care.

A big part of protecting pedestrians is visibility and automatic braking. I know Cybertruck has a bumper-height forward-facing camera, and I would expect the Tesla software to be very good.

As for direct visibility, while I'm sure it's worse in a Cybertruck than with a small car, I'm interested to know how it compares to other trucks. With a shorter front (in both height and depth) you would think it would be better, and I'm guessing it probably is.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by silexia »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #946

I watched the whole launch event, my takeaway is that the Cybertruck is is going to really take off. I say this as someone who really disliked the initial aesthetic. Here are 3 facts: 1. It outpulls an F350 Diesel (and an F150 lightning and Rivian R1T) 2. It outurns any vehicle due to rear-wheel steering 3. It is faster than ANY truck AND most sports cars (it beat a Porsche 911 while pulling a 911 on a trailer) 4. It…

I think you are right. If electric vehicles continue to gain steam, this will become the #1 seller in America, displacing the F series pickup.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by charred_patina »

Dig1t wrote: post #990
charred_patina wrote: post #988

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> God I am so disgusted by trucks as virtue/status signaling If you own a truck for its utility then my statement doesn't apply to you. They are utility vehicles. I can safely say thought that a majority of people who own them live in the suburbs and don't use them for their intended purpose. They are just used to signal status.

Yes I do agree that a lot of people don’t utilize their utility and just drive them because they are large and comfy. It’s silly. It’s hard to differentiate these people though, sometimes I drive my truck with the bed empty, and just by looking at me you wouldn’t know I was the type of person who uses it for its intended purpose most of the time. It’s difficult to judge unless you actually know people that own these…

> It’s difficult to judge unless you actually know people that own these type of cars.

Sure this is true, but living in Texas I can tell you most people do not need them, and pay for them as status symbols. There are more trucks today than there have ever been, and fewer people working jobs that need them. The explosion in growth comes from marketing.

As for just truck-centric solutions, I'd say there needs to be a minimum bed size limit and some sort of ratio for bed size to cab/engine size. There is no reason that 2/3rds of the truck is not bed. Trucks should be at least 50% bed. If a truck is a utility vehicle it doesn't need to look sexy, it can look like a Kei truck.

Trucks should also have height limits and be tested for visibility. If you cant see a child or a coupe next to your truck, it is too high. Not to mention that high beds suck for utility compared to low beds.

I think trucks should be designed so that the only reason you would ever own a truck is if you needed to move things. If you want something "manly" trucks should be so utilitarian that they don't even factor into consideration.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by jfinmaniv »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #820

It's a brutally agressive looking machine - I assume intentionally so. That flat front pretty much guarantees padestrian/cyclist/motorcyclist fatailities in a collision. And over on Ars Technica they say "Musk implied that in a crash with another vehicle, the Cybertruck [...] will destroy the other vehicle." [1] - and presumably therefore kills its occupants too. Opinion: this is the purest physical realisation of th…

Are flat fronts and apparent indifference to truck-pedestrian interactions specific to the cybertruck, or did Tesla just miss an opportunity to improve the status quo in this regard? I am trying to calibrate my Musk skepticism.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by misiti3780 »

angoragoats wrote: post #549
danans wrote: post #535

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> Were they just making shit up? > So they collected at least $100MM of customer money based on completely made up pricing/specs. WTF. Correct and correct. And not every manufacturer does this, by the way. The price/specs of the EV I pre-ordered (Volkswagen) did not change much by the time I purchased it.

Yeah, I'm aware. Tesla should at minimum be legally required to pay interest to anyone who requests a refund.

interest on a 100 dollar deposit?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by phatskat »

valval wrote: post #970
nxm wrote: post #847

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It actually did great. The occupant area was minimally damaged - the front end absorbed the collision as it was designed to do. The driver would have walked away from this collision. Tesla makes some of the safest vehicles on the road from a driver/occupant perspective, but lately HN loves to hate on Tesla.

HN is awfully leftist, and Musk doesn’t enjoy the greatest admiration among those people.

He shouldn’t appeal to most anyone regardless of party affiliation, but he supports the “my freedom of speech” people by allowing and unbanning some of the worst of Twitter, so he has a particular audience he’s attached himself to. Mind you, he was left until they started paying attention to who he was and once that happened, he found it easier to oppose the more right-leaning folks. Musk will pander to whichever crowd is easiest to appeal to

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by dang »

jessehattabaugh wrote: post #998
dang wrote: post #966

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Please don't do this here.

Do what? Have a sens of humor?

Please don't do snark, name-calling, personal attacks, or post unsubstantive comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Humor's fine, the trouble is that most people overestimate how funny they are. scott_s said it best many years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by oittaa »

electrondood wrote: post #657
SrslyJosh wrote: post #495

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> same 250 mile range We don't actually know what the Cyberjoke's range will be. Given Tesla's history with range claims, there's no reason to trust the numbers on that website. See: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-ba... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/angry-tesla-cust... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/10/doj-subpoenas-te...

Cyberjoke... yeah no bias here.

How do I mute/block trolls on this website? The FAQ didn't provide any info. These pro oil trolls, which show up on every EV thread, don't provide any value.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

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