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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by kbos87 »

pornel wrote: post #546
rainsford wrote: post #432

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This seems like a fairly common point as well in car reviews. Super fast cars of any type are only fun in a very limited set of circumstances, most of them not on a normal road. In contrast, even your daily commute can be made more fun with a car that's lightweight or has good handling or an engaging manual shifter or whatever. It's basically the entire premise of the Mazda Miata. It's an unfortunate trend with EVs t…

Instant torque makes lots of people grin. Most BEVs also have low center of gravity and even mass distribution, so they’re not as bad as a heavy ICE car. On public roads, 0-30mph acceleration is probably most fun you can have within realm of legal and sensible driving. Handling is not an issue at speed limits of public roads.

This. Who cares about top end speed when I can reliably pull ahead of any other vehicle on the road in my Model Y? I use that capability regularly. I'd literally never go 100+mph - that's a novelty.

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pandaman wrote: post #649
giobox wrote: post #555

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Allows you to vary the steering ratio dynamically (how many "turns" lock to lock). Means a lot less arm twiddling during lower speed maneuvers, and can gradually increase the ratio as speed increases. Traditional mechanically linked steering racks (electric or hydraulic) don't do this and are the same number of turns lock to lock regardless of speed - they can only dynamically vary the amount of power assist, not the…

BMW had this on mechanically linked system for 20 years. It's called "Active Steering" in their marketing speak.

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Post by bo1024 »

chung8123 wrote: post #482

It is extremely misleading to include gas savings as a reduction in purchase price. If anything that should be used as a comparison of overall operating costs and cost more than the purchase price but not as much more as the gas competitor.

Yeah - not to mention that nowadays most will be comparing the price to other electric vehicles.

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Post by electrondood »

riscy wrote: post #559
chung8123 wrote: post #482

It is extremely misleading to include gas savings as a reduction in purchase price. If anything that should be used as a comparison of overall operating costs and cost more than the purchase price but not as much more as the gas competitor.

Yes, they’re assuming electricity is free.

No, they factor in the cost of charging, both at home and at a supercharger, when they calculate estimated gas savings.

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Post by electrondood »

supportengineer wrote: post #268
al_borland wrote: post #169

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From what I’ve heard, trucks are huge now due to various fuel efficiency regulations. A big truck is easier to make with fewer regulations. It seems like all the electric trucks want to prove they are bigger and tougher than the ICE trucks, but it seems like the perfect platform for small trucks, as the the efficiency standards would become a moot point. I’m looking for trucks like the old Ford Ranger from the late 9…

If it weighs over 6000 pounds and you have a small business, you can completely write off 100% of the purchase in one year.

Bingo.

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Post by electrondood »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #495
danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> same 250 mile range We don't actually know what the Cyberjoke's range will be. Given Tesla's history with range claims, there's no reason to trust the numbers on that website. See: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-ba... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/angry-tesla-cust... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/10/doj-subpoenas-te...

Cyberjoke... yeah no bias here.

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Post by ethbr1 »

jedberg wrote: post #463
ethbr1 wrote: post #236

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It'd be too on the nose, now. Ridiculous reality isn't funny. Although it definitely feels like there's a Silicon Valley II thread brewing with AI startups.

It was too on the nose the first time. When it was airing I was raising VC funds, and it was basically a documentary. I would laugh every time someone offered me a Fiji water at a VC office.

Gotta get the water first.

"What if I told you, there was an app..."

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Post by starcraft2wol »

chung8123 wrote: post #482

It is extremely misleading to include gas savings as a reduction in purchase price. If anything that should be used as a comparison of overall operating costs and cost more than the purchase price but not as much more as the gas competitor.

There are two price tabs, toggle it to the left.

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Post by giobox »

pandaman wrote: post #649
giobox wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allows you to vary the steering ratio dynamically (how many "turns" lock to lock). Means a lot less arm twiddling during lower speed maneuvers, and can gradually increase the ratio as speed increases. Traditional mechanically linked steering racks (electric or hydraulic) don't do this and are the same number of turns lock to lock regardless of speed - they can only dynamically vary the amount of power assist, not the…

BMW had this on mechanically linked system for 20 years. It's called "Active Steering" in their marketing speak.

It's not really the same at all in practice though. With steer by wire you can get the lock to lock literally as little as you like - 150 degrees at low speed lock to lock in the Lexus system for example. In theory it could go from one extreme to the other in a single degree, its just software, although obviously no one sane would implement this. Active Steering on BMWs doesn't get remotely close to 150 degree low speed lock to lock.
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