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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by adfm »

defrost wrote: post #449
adfm wrote: post #431

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Trucks are meant to haul. Anything with less than an 8' bed are truck-shaped cars for all practical purposes and should be taxed accordingly because they're a waste of resources and contribute to the decline of the environment. Crew cabs are just an excuse to drive around in something truck-shaped. The term is carpool not truckpool. If you're driving to and from a job site with others in the vehicle, it's either part…

> Trucks are meant to haul. Agreed. > Anything with less than an 8' bed ... WTF? Doesn't your truck have a Hayman-Reese hitch, anti swaybars, various carry racks; don't you have several different trailers - single and double axle, light weight and heavy tonnage, caravans and animal floats? I'm starting to wonder if, in fact, you've got any kind of working vehicle setup at all. Crew cabs are so you can haul a fire pum…

Sounds like a fleet vehicle.

The dually's at the ranch and has an 8' bed. No stacks. No 5" tips. Beat to shit, brown, with a bad starter.

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Post by acdha »

GenerWork wrote: post #395
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It's bizarre that in the middle of a oil market crisis it wasn't expected that the consumer market wouldn't have moved to higher MPG vehicles on it's own anyways. To me, this is one of the hallmarks of a highly monopolized market where consumers don't have any actual choices, and where competition for consumer approval is almost entirely absent. The correct answer would have been to increase the number of companies m…

>Now we have a market that's almost entirely bound to congressional whim Agree 100% >mostly disconnected from consumer demand Disagree. Sedans are still around (Camry, Corolla, Civic, Accord), but consumers are voting with their wallets for crossovers. Ford killed the Focus and Fusion because they simply couldn't be sold for a profit since most people didn't get the high end models, and to be honest, I'm surprised Ch…

> Sedans are still around (Camry, Corolla, Civic, Accord), but consumers are voting with their wallets for crossovers

This is objectively true but it’s happening against three decades of marketing pushing SUVs hard and especially the messaging that if you drive a small car you’re putting your safety at risk. I think there’s an arm’s race here which is going to be hard to stop absent something causing gas prices to spike or a shift in insurance requirements.

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Post by jacquesm »

mcv wrote: post #302
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Oh certainly. Trucks inside the USA are their own kind of culture (which I do not feel great about).

I see big RAM trucks show up increasingly more often in Amsterdam. 10 years ago there was just 1, and this week I think I spotted the 4th in my neighbourhood.

Yes, it's a ridiculous development. Those cars have absolutely no business in the inner city, they're bloody dangerous and much too large for compatibility with the roads. And that's before we get into parking issues. PC Hooft tractors...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by charles_f »

ttfkam wrote: post #164

I see from the photos it will have side mirrors now, so no side cameras after all. Still haven't heard anything about crash testing, which I'm curious about since thick stainless steel isn't what one would usually associate with crumple zones. To be sure, I wouldn't want to be hit by one if I were a pedestrian in a crosswalk.

> I wouldn't want to be hit by one if I were a pedestrian in a crosswalk

That, and I would also not want to be hit by one of these in my little hatchback. I'm already terrified by F150 and up, this will be the same but heavier and more likely to let me deal with all their kinetic energy. Put that with the irresponsible power that they've put in, and the kind of driver this kind of car is attracting, this is bad news.

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Post by SrslyJosh »

danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> same 250 mile range

We don't actually know what the Cyberjoke's range will be. Given Tesla's history with range claims, there's no reason to trust the numbers on that website.

See: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-ba... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/angry-tesla-cust... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/10/doj-subpoenas-te...

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Post by jacquesm »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #418
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I see big RAM trucks show up increasingly more often in Amsterdam. 10 years ago there was just 1, and this week I think I spotted the 4th in my neighbourhood.

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No, they've got a point. These are simply not compatible with the old town and that's exactly where they go with them. You have to imagine a city that was made for something the size of a small horse drawn carriage where you take these massive vehicles. It's tight enough with normal cars, this is well across what's feasible in practice.

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Post by abledon »

adgrnhioaedntio wrote: post #202
everfrustrated wrote: post #72

Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

The 911 Turbo S has a 0-60 time of 2.6 seconds, but Car and Driver clocked it at 2.2. Its quarter-mile time is 10.1 seconds. https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-turbo-turbo-s I don't know what's going on with that video. If we take Tesla's numbers at face value, which I definitely don't given their history, the 911 Turbo S is dramatically faster on the straights. Is Tesla claiming that the Cybertruck gets faster…

they said they went to a dealership, bought it, then brought it to the track. No modifications etc.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

dymk wrote: post #124
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Sure, but you'd likely fare better being hit by a Cybertruck than an F-150 or a Ranger or a large SUV.

The people who would consider buying an F150 or a sprinter van are not the people who would buy a Cybertruck. Smaller bed, can't tow nearly as much, lower range. The dominant market for this truck is going to be people who may as well buy a Model 3.

The Cybertruck has a larger bed and longer range than an F150 Lightning SuperCrew.

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Post by chung8123 »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #447
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How would you feel if a Prius was advertised thousands of dollars under the actual number of dollars you pay for the car because of “fuel savings compared to a Camero over 5 years”? Or is it only OK when Tesla does it?

> Or is it only OK when Tesla does it? There's no reason to assume I'm biased towards Tesla here. If any carmaker wanted to say "our car is X% more efficient, and the average person could reasonably expect to save $Y", and then discount that from the sticker price, I would be okay with that. I don't think it's deceptive at all as long as the estimate is reasonable, and as long as there is clear communication about th…

That is not the price of the vehicle. If anything the price should be more because the three year cost of the vehicle is more than the initial price.

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Post by nozzlegear »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #159
danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

Yeah, I live in Iowa and F150/Dodge Ram is the baseline for anybody working construction or farm jobs. My brother-in-law and my uncle both separately run their own construction companies; one drives an F250, the other drives a some kind of diesel Ram. They both use them to haul their trailers full of materials/tools and machines around to job sites. My father’s a farmer/mechanic and drives an older Silverado.

I drive a Chevy Bolt EUV fwiw and love it.

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