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Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…
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I am curious what cybertruck will charge like at existing superchargers that max out at 400V. GM's clever solution is to present the battery pack as 2 400V packs. It does pose some very tricky pack balancing requirements though. Other 800V cars charge quite poorly on 400V stations, usually with a hard cap at much lower than the potential max charge due to inverter limits.
E-GMP (EV6, Ioniq5) actually charges quite fast on 400V as they run it through the motor/inverter which already pumps out more than 100kW I think no one else is doing that at the moment.
Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…
Everyone with a brain knows this is a vanity project by a very rich person who can do whatever he wants. The success doesn't matter. I don't think that's a good or bad thing, it's just a thing. If anything it demonstrates what a bored rich nerd can do for fun. I guess I might do something like that if I had billions to throw around, maybe I'd just make one for myself though, and not an entire product line that would…
Having said that, I simply cannot contort myself enough to pretend he is not deliberately tanking Twitter.
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> The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard, and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. I'd like to nitpick "doing actual pickup truck work". The Lightning gets terrible mileage, to the tune of roughly 100 miles on a charge, while hauling which ICE trucks do not…
My friend who’s in landscaping drives a basic F150 with an 8-ft bed. The payload capacity on his truck is less than the base Lightning. Usually he’s bringing a bunch of tools back there, and depending on the job might be carrying plants, mulch etc. In cases where he has to haul more (eg. clearing out a huge amount of overgrown plants) he might rent a utility trailer to tow. Which the Lightning is also perfectly capab…
How easy is it to supercharge a F150 electric while towing a 20 foot trailer? The way I see most Tesla superchargers oriented, it seems like it would be a pain in the ass.
But also, depending on where landscaping jobs take you, you might be well out of range of a supercharger when you need it most. You might need to finish 5 jobs in an afternoon, and make 3 hauls to the dump and two stops at a supply store and then get to the other side of town as quickly as possible or lose a job. A gas car can be refilled in 3 minutes. You can get another 100 miles of range from 5 gallons, which you can even carry with you for emergencies.
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$50k Cybertruck will never exist, any more than $30k Model 3 existed.
The initial Cybertruck announcement had the three trim levels priced at $39,990, $49,990, and $69,990. This is a price increase of between $21k and $30k, across the board. The original top-level $69,990 trim also advertised a 500-mile range, which is now down to 320 miles. Were they just making shit up? If I had put a deposit down back in 2019 I'd be pretty upset. Edit: I just looked and Musk himself has stated that…
> So they collected at least $100MM of customer money based on completely made up pricing/specs. WTF.
Correct and correct. And not every manufacturer does this, by the way. The price/specs of the EV I pre-ordered (Volkswagen) did not change much by the time I purchased it.
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Regulators agree: > According to EU auto standards expert Stefan Teller the Cybertruck would have to undergo “major modifications to the basic structure” because the Cybertruck “contradicts the European security philosophy.” > ANCAP chief executive James Goodwin says the angular shape and stainless steel construction of the all-electric Cybertruck would likely pose risks to pedestrians and cyclists, which are among t…
I have a feeling Tesla truck wouldn’t even sell in EU
There is a small but growing market in Australia for full-size American pickups, which are (expensively) converted to right-hand-drive in Australia by factory-backed conversion operators.
They’re essentially marketed as penis extenders to cashed-up older men.
Be interesting to see whether Tesla tries something similar; I suspect the customers for full-size pickups here in Oz want their vehicles to go brrrm.
Seems like there's been relatively less attention on the 48V/800V architecture and the Ethernet comms/steer by wire setup, but I think those are what make this particular vehicle quite interesting. Up until recently I think 48V power electronics have been fairly rare outside of telecom/other high cost situations, but I suppose one major difference is that at 48V, transformer-based DC-DC conversion is usually a better…
Drive by wire kind of scares me.
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> Especially most trucks I'd argue not. Many trucks are driven by folks in the trades. If I were to guess, I'd put my money on SUVs having the largest fraction of users who rarely if ever push the vehicle to its limits. That or sports cars.
> Many trucks are driven by folks in the trades. It's a little hard to believe that's the primary market given the design trends in trucks that seemingly make them less attractive and useful to tradespeople while being more appealing to folks in the fashion accessory market. For example, the trend of trucks getting more and more expensive with luxury features and interiors or the increasing popularity of short beds w…
The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…
> same 250 mile range but AWD standard Unless I'm reading Ford's website wrong, 4x4 is not included at the $50k price... but I'd be happy to be wrong because that would be good value.
It's a happy day for you. All F150 Lightnings come with AWD standard, including the basic one:
https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/models/f150-...