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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by wazokazi »

TheSwordsman wrote: post #145
nosequel wrote: post #92

I would like to know the range when towing 11,000 lbs. In the full size market, I can only think of the Nissan Titan as having less than 12,000 lb tow rating. A base Ford F150 has a 14,000 rating. When you move up to diesels, you can easily tow 20,000+ lbs and even at 10,000 lbs you take very little hit on range if your load is somewhat aerodynamic. Pulling a full-size Airstream you can still get 20+mpg even in a sma…

The 11,000 may be limited by the suspension system. So in terms of comparisons I don't think you're wrong, but it might be better to compare it to the F-150 Lightning for more of an apples to apples comparison. The F-150 Lightning Platinum vs Cybetruck AWD is probably the most fair comparison in terms of specs, but the CT is ~$20,000 cheaper If we compare the F-150 Lightning Lariat with XR Battery to the Cybertruck A…

A different comparison would be the following (from the manufacturers sites)

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  Ford Lightning Pro: $50K
    240 Mile EPA-Est. Range – Standard-Range Battery and RWD171
    0-60 MPH in 4.1 seconds - Standard Range Battery\*
    Wireless Integration with Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™
    12-inch Touchscreen
    Mega Power Frunk

  CT Rear-Wheel Drive: $61k
    Available in 2025
    250 MI. Range (EST.)
    6.5 sec. 0-60 mph
very similar ranges and specs, but and CT is 10k more. Also, ships in 2 years.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by mcv »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #226
microtherion wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Switzerland, you sometimes see e.g. a Piaggio Ape: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_Ape And a number of construction jobs in our house were performed by a gentleman who arrived with a Vespa unless he specifically had to transport something sizeable.

Oh certainly. Trucks inside the USA are their own kind of culture (which I do not feel great about).

I see big RAM trucks show up increasingly more often in Amsterdam. 10 years ago there was just 1, and this week I think I spotted the 4th in my neighbourhood.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by threeseed »

nomel wrote: post #253
taurath wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like it already has limited social value except as a sort of MAGA hat for Elon. I predict it’ll have some rabid adherents but also develop a reputation as a vehicle for assholes - already in a lot of circles the Tesla brand has a negative association due to Elon behaving like a nepo bully.

I wish I was just an allowed to like things, without people coming up with some BS, especially political, about why I shouldn't. I suspect the bigger problem will be people like you, being judgmental assholes, rather than the "assholes" just buying something they think is neat. I'm mostly looking forward to cars/trucks maybe not looking the same as they have for the last 50 years.

You are free to do whatever you like. And others are free to do what they like.

Which for most people includes making judgements about who you are based on the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the style of haircut etc.

And buying a Cybertruck does imply that you either (a) agree with or (b) are ambivalent about Musk's behaviour.

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Post by wepple »

m463 wrote: post #288
wepple wrote: post #279

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I think you missed the point? Tesla brag about fast quarter mile speeds which don’t really amount to much, whereas a really nice driving experience via good suspension and weight distribution is truly wonderful. Let’s see Tesla brag about Nurburgring times!

Yes, but people BUY 16gb of ram, and BUY a pickup bed, and BUY extra bathrooms... and they BUY a truck that can accelerate (almost) like a porsche. note truck cannot accelerate like a plaid :)

Oh, maybe I missed the point then?

People buy the hyper inflated metric that sounds good, even if it’s not actually what they want?

A huge one of this is (or was?) megapixels in cameras. When actually, sensor size & quality, and glass quality matters a ton.

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Post by WheatMillington »

danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

$50k Cybertruck will never exist, any more than $30k Model 3 existed.

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Post by WheatMillington »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #159
danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

FWIW here in New Zealand the F150 is gigantic, and very uncommon. Our usual "trucks" (utes) are far smaller - Hilux, Ranger, etc.

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Post by 0xDEAFBEAD »

taurath wrote: post #196
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #166

Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…

I feel like it already has limited social value except as a sort of MAGA hat for Elon. I predict it’ll have some rabid adherents but also develop a reputation as a vehicle for assholes - already in a lot of circles the Tesla brand has a negative association due to Elon behaving like a nepo bully.

Probably lots of truck buyers wearing MAGA hats already, they know their target market?

Standard business advice: It's better to have a product that a few people love than a product that lots of people think is just OK.

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Post by grecy »

ska wrote: post #200
grecy wrote: post #149

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Elon said a long time ago they wanted their vehicles to be a smackdown for Internal Combustion Engines, and I think they're getting there. This is the kind of marketing that make regular people go "Wait, what? How is that possible?". More than about 10 years ago that was simply unheard of, and I'm certain people would have said it was impossible. Useful or not, it's a very impressive thing to do. 99% of automakers wo…

> a sports care faster than a 911 Eh, it's not really interesting if you can't corner. Lots of trucks aren't actually bad at it, all you need is a ton of torque, tires that can take it, and enough weight and length to keep the front end down. Easy enough any automaker can do it if they choose, but 1/4 mile numbers are a mostly meaningless pissing contest unless you are actually building drag cars. Now if Tesla built…

> * Easy enough any automaker can do it if they choose*

Ahh, no.

The Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat with 707 horsepower runs a 11.4 [1]

That is the very definition of a car built to go fast in a straight line. Massive engine, supercharger, massive rear tires, and it's slower than the Cybertruck.

> Lots of trucks aren't actually bad at it

Please show me a truck that gets even remotely close to a sub 11 quarter mile. Heck, show me a production sports car (that isn't a super car as expensive as a house) that does.

[1] https://fastestlaps.com/models/dodge-charger-srt-hellcat

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Post by threeseed »

dymk wrote: post #99

Stainless steel exterior with sharp edges. Not looking forwarding to seeing pedestrians get gored when these things run into them. Not holding my breath on good crash compatibility with cars, either. If you care about humans, you won't get one of these.

Regulators agree:

> According to EU auto standards expert Stefan Teller the Cybertruck would have to undergo “major modifications to the basic structure” because the Cybertruck “contradicts the European security philosophy.”

> ANCAP chief executive James Goodwin says the angular shape and stainless steel construction of the all-electric Cybertruck would likely pose risks to pedestrians and cyclists, which are among the most vulnerable road users and account for almost one in five fatalities.

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Post by legitster »

notatoad wrote: post #287
legitster wrote: post #204

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It's amazingly bad timing that Silicon Valley ended before NFTs, OpenAI, WFH, and Musk's purchase of Twitter.

it's amazing how well it holds up. most of the jokes they're making would work perfectly fine if you swapped in whatever the overhyped tech fad of the day is.

I think the big difference is we are seeing a closing of the window on the VC days. We're no longer in the low inflation, low interest-rate environment that was the primordial soup for startups.

So while I think the show has held up amazingly well (didn't love the way it ended), I think in 10-15 years we are going to look back at the period it represents pretty nostalgically.

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