How does this differ from helloSystem?
RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
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Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have used brew on Linux for dev tooling, because it’s so easy to switch versions.
I realized Brew was released for Linux a while back, and my jaw dropped because… why? Brew is simply awful compared to most Linux package managers. It has gotten better over the years but I still couldn’t ever imagine preferring it over the installed out of the box package manager in quite literally any Linux distro.
Homebrew is my preferred package manager on Linux. It just seems to work more simply than apt or Flatpak for me, and it’s less context switching when I need to use macOS.
Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#103IS there Something that I’m not getting about the Shortcut “SHIFT-S” that’S Shown on the page?
Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rhapsody looked pretty decent IMHO… http://toastytech.com/guis/rhap.html
Yes, but it only devolved from Mac OS 9 by adding a bunch of unpolished NeXT GUIs, and the development necessitated the temporary removal of features and apps that were already polished.
I‘ve never really worked with Rhapsody, so I couldn’t tell. I came to Mac OS X from NeXTSTEP and FreeBSD, the first version I actually used as a daily driver (with the odd boot to Mac OS 9 for some stuff) was the public beta in 2000 (which was Aqua already of course).
Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#105Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
One moderately frustrating thing about using FreeBSD is that it's always been treated as sort of a second-class citizen by GNOME, and therefore Gtk, and therefore most of the Linux ecosystem which depends on Gtk. So probably the most popular desktop environment is KDE, and it's nice, but it is a certain kind of interface which doesn't appeal to everyone. Meanwhile, OS X shares a little code with FreeBSD and was parti…
> OS X shares a little code with FreeBSD and was partially derived from it around 30 years ago. The first release of FreeBSD was 30 years ago, OS X a little over 20.
Well Rhapsody was released 25 years ago. So you’re both right, now go back playing ;-)
Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
One moderately frustrating thing about using FreeBSD is that it's always been treated as sort of a second-class citizen by GNOME, and therefore Gtk, and therefore most of the Linux ecosystem which depends on Gtk. So probably the most popular desktop environment is KDE, and it's nice, but it is a certain kind of interface which doesn't appeal to everyone. Meanwhile, OS X shares a little code with FreeBSD and was parti…
> OS X shares a little code with FreeBSD and was partially derived from it around 30 years ago. The first release of FreeBSD was 30 years ago, OS X a little over 20.
OS X is derived from NeXTSTEP, first released in 1989 and based on 4.3BSD-Tahoe. Meanwhile, this was updated to 4.3BSD-Reno and ported to the x86 as 386BSD, from which NetBSD was forked in early 1993; it was subsequently reorganized to become FreeBSD in late 1993. NeXTSTEP and OS X later imported a few system components from FreeBSD, while replacing others, particularly replacing parts of the kernel with Mach.
Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#108It just looks bad. You want to be MacOS? Actually go and copy it, as close to pixel perfect as you fancy. I've personally experimented with replicating UIs using just a "device" object to a graphical API, so I know very well that it is possible. What prevents this project from just... going out and actually doing what they're trying to achieve? Take high resolution screenshots, carefully understand what's going on, a…
This screenshot[1] is a great example of what you're talking about.
* Awful typography (especially bold text)
* Ugly gray background in foreground window
* Windows 95-era buttons in the foreground window
* Weird left padding in the (ugly) dock
* Terminal window has window controls on the right for some reason, and they look like they're from Windows?
All that said, it's still in preview (v0.4pre4), and these things can all be corrected. But I think they'd do well to slap "early preview" all over the place so people don't write it off.
Re: RavynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD
#109Meh macOS is more than shiny traffic lights buttons on your windows, global menus, and dock. It's also a clipboard that works everywhere and not like "oh you cannot do this because X11 this or wayland that", it's also human interface guidelines (the old ones, the new ones are unparseable shit) that make bloody sure that the OK/Cancel buttons appear where you expect them to appear. It's also some bloody keyboard short…
> Try blindfolding yourself, inserting your installer usb stick, and installing your thing and using it successfully. I don't understand this. Are you saying its hard to install Linux? Has this ever been true? Usually you smash the Next button. There is a partioning screen, but that is some serious changes you are going to make. I don't care what OS religion you follow, I'm taking the blindfold off during partioning.
But this also means you're fucked if you're blind and taking blindfold off doesn't make any difference.
This is not about religion, man. This is about accessibility.
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#110Frankly I think these days a Linux based emulator like Wine would be a smarter decision .
Really goes to show the demand of exclusive MacOS software. To be fair, if something is on Mac, it is usually on Linux. Windows is a bit different.
> To be fair, if something is on Mac, it is usually on Linux.
That's true only for CLI apps. My most frequently used GUI apps on Mac:
- MailMate
- Affinity Photo
- ACDSee Photo Studio
- NetNewsWire
- ApolloOne
- Textual
- Transmit
- iA Writer
None of them are available on Linux. Most of them are Mac-only (i.e. no Windows version either).