Earlier quoted context omitted.
When it comes at the expense of legitimate user freedom, and is arguably useless? Probably.
Buy a gaming pc if you want freedom
Xbox will block third-party controllers to "preserve the console experience"
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#142> players have been encountering error “0x82d60002” OT: Microsoft should be banned by decree from showing naked error codes to people, I've been fighting them for decades now
Error codes are specific and can be looked up. The modern trend of "uwu we fucky-wucked up" cutesy error messages with no details whatsoever is inexcusable because of how much harder it makes to troubleshoot the error.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Afaik this isn't true. What some games have is a particularly invasive anti-cheat that's not supported on Proton. But it's not targeting Steam Deck in particular, it's just a side-effect.
What's not true? That games block open hardware with excuse of cheating prevention just like Microsoft blocks other hardware with same excuse on Xbox? That's trivially verifiable. For end user it makes no different whether it's a side effect or not.
Some anti cheat tools, such as "Easy Anti Cheat" are supported on Steam Deck, some are not supported yet. Perhaps some will never be supported. AFAIK these later categories are generally due to anti cheat hooking into low level windows functionality that Proton doesn't support. You could argue this is "blocking open software" but that would be a stretch since this behavior is generally better described as a lack of support rather than explicit blocking
None of it is due to game publishers including code that limits the hardware that windows runs on (blocking open hardware).
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#145Makes me sick to the stomach, but everyone seems to love Steve Jobs, the genius inventor, that never actually invented anything and died of a treatable cancer because he actually was a complete moron and didn't get treatment, because "he knew better" and opted for alternative medicine. Which reminds me of the joke: "You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proven to work? Medicine."
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Buy a gaming pc if you want freedom
you are on hacker news
Of course this makes sense, it's just something that slips my mind every once in a while.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Error codes are specific and can be looked up. The modern trend of "uwu we fucky-wucked up" cutesy error messages with no details whatsoever is inexcusable because of how much harder it makes to troubleshoot the error.
If error codes can be looked up, why can't the software displaying the error code just do the lookup and show a proper error message?
The error codes are sort of a self service mechanism for advanced users who want to try unofficial troubleshooting. They're not a substitute for a real patch fixing the root issue.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just write clear and explicit error message (like “Not a valid Microsoft controller”), you shouldn't need to Google it in the first place! You should still add an error code, so that people can look for additional documentation about the error on your official doc, but having obscure errors and assuming people will look on Google to see if someone on reddit or stackoverflow has more idea about what the problem could…
Your choice is a) "0x82d60002: Using unauthorised accessories compromises your ..." or b) "Error: Using unauthorised accessories ..." There is no c) "Not a valid Microsoft controller" option. Which one between a) or b) is more likely to lead to resolution? Note, Microsoft also offers phone and/or chat support to Xbox users.
Also, what do your alternatives have to do with the question whether it's better or not for the error message to be localized?
And why are error codes supposed to be 32bits long in the first place?
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Meh I'm a 40 year old man with the reflexes of a 60 year old man. I didn't buy it to cheat at online games, I don't play them. I bought it so I could use my PS3 fightsticks in Soul Calibur 6. The Brook adapter works(worked, past tense soon?) way better and is way more cost effective. The Cronus might make you a little better at a game if you're already really good. If you're bad at the game like me, you're still goin…