It seems the license info is not readily available on the website. I can easily find it in the GitHub repo but not on the website. I think it would be nice to have it clearly visible on the website, too.
OpenTF is now OpenTofu
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#132Great initiative, and I'm sure that with the community's stewardship this will become a better tool than TF ever was. Me personally, I'm happy about the licence change because it pushed me to Pulumi and I'm absolutely loving it, which I could never say about TF, quite the opposite.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
You funny. Edit: I don't want to sound dismissive, so let me explain the difference. Anyone coming to the website will be using a computer of some kind, and even if they for some weird reason don't, the verb "compute" does give a hint at what a computer might be. None of this is true for "infrastructure-as-code".
The target audience for a IaC project is probably people who know what IaC is. Or even people who know what "infrastructure" and "code" are, separately.
If that is the case, why does the upstream project website tell what it does?
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#135Oh, it's meatless terraform.
Not necessarily. There are people who use tofu as substitute for mushrooms. So I've seen it mixed with meat.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
The dismantling of HashiCorp because they tried to save themselves from Amazon swallowing them is sad. Open Source businesses have no future in a world where big tech can gulp your product for free. The OpenTofu folks will probably even raise capital to support commercialization of their thing at some point.
Open Source businesses have no future as Open Source businesses if they aren't using Open Source licences. What I find odd in these situations, that have happened multiple times now, is the companies go straight from "weak" licenses like the MPL, straight to "source available" ones. Surely it would have been a good idea to try a strong copyleft licence like AGPL first.
AGPL is seen as a no-go by most companies. It's viewed as risky because the obligations associated with it are often unclear.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Open Source businesses have no future as Open Source businesses if they aren't using Open Source licences. What I find odd in these situations, that have happened multiple times now, is the companies go straight from "weak" licenses like the MPL, straight to "source available" ones. Surely it would have been a good idea to try a strong copyleft licence like AGPL first.
AGPL is seen as a no-go by most companies. It's viewed as risky because the obligations associated with it are often unclear.
Surely those companies can pay for an alternative license then?
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
The dismantling of HashiCorp because they tried to save themselves from Amazon swallowing them is sad. Open Source businesses have no future in a world where big tech can gulp your product for free. The OpenTofu folks will probably even raise capital to support commercialization of their thing at some point.
I generally like your takes but this one isn't very good since it wasn't Amazon that was the threat. HashiCorp couldn't compete. Their enterprise offerings were bad and their price quotes were insane and unrealistic. I worked at two companies who rejected them because their pricing was so ludicrous. The TACoS space of small startups nimbly out-competed these bad offerings. Rent-seeking because you weren't able to com…
> I shed no tears for them and their rich founder who posts tweets of his solo flights to visit his rich friends.
Couldn’t keep out a personal dig at Mitchell, who happens to be one of the most unproblematic people at Hashicorp and certainly doesn’t care or participate much in governance ? Seems like a lot of personal feelings were packed into this innocuous-posturing statement.
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#139This name confuses me as I usually expect things named "OpenFoobar" to be open versions of "Foobar" (see: OpenJDK, OpenTTD), but here that’s not the case.
Opensearch
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The dismantling of HashiCorp because they tried to save themselves from Amazon swallowing them is sad. Open Source businesses have no future in a world where big tech can gulp your product for free. The OpenTofu folks will probably even raise capital to support commercialization of their thing at some point.
I have mixed feelings about that. Yes, doing money on open source is hard, but on the other hand, the reason why you were successful was because you were open source in the first place and capitalized on millions of hours of free work from unpaid contributors which would've neither contributed nor adopted your product otherwise. Imho, if you can't compete with other cloud offerings of your products then your cloud of…
> capitalized on millions of hours of free work from unpaid contributors
Does this hypothesis really hold up? In my experience the contributor community remains small and often even dormant compared to the userbase of an opensource project only to take action if the project itself gets in turmoil (main developer leaves, bad takes on features etc.)