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Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by cpursley »

EricE wrote: post #344
cpursley wrote: post #315

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I think Mazda is one of the exceptions. Plus, they have great driving dynamics in general. Only thing stopping me from getting a new Miata is all the dangerous bro-dozers on the road.

Meh - with a Miata you just zip out of their way. Miata owner since 1998 and I even survived commuting for 22 years in Northern VA. Life is too short - get and enjoy a Miata!

It's the times where I can't zip out of the way that I'm worried about. The these mall-crawler truck-bros really are obnoxious and intentionally aggressive towards small cars. I'll stick to my track only race car with full cage and fire suppression system.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by cpursley »

hibikir wrote: post #441
EricE wrote: post #344

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Meh - with a Miata you just zip out of their way. Miata owner since 1998 and I even survived commuting for 22 years in Northern VA. Life is too short - get and enjoy a Miata!

I was also a Miata owner: An NB Madzaspeed. A lot of fun to drive, and it's nimbleness saved me from a couple of crazy accidents. Unfortunately the car has one major weakness: It doesn't matter if the car is very agile if you are surrounded by vehicles with far worse characteristics. The car was rammed 3 times in 12 years, either on the side or the back, by people in brodozers that either couldn't see it on the side,…

Exactly this. And worse - I'm worried the lifted brodozer would come up onto the Miata and crush me. It's too bad, they are wonderful cars. At least we can still track 'em.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by mlrtime »

foxyv wrote: post #468
cpursley wrote: post #322

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Manuals suck in traffic. Americans sit in a lot of traffic. And I say this as somebody who loves manuals (I’m an amateur race car driver).

This is the exact reason I bought an automatic. I had a 1994 BMW 318is that I loved, but I spent probably a couple thousand hours on the 91 freeway in southern California pushing the clutch in and out. The BMW "sporty" clutch was a leg workout and a half. The return spring was super stiff. Sometimes I would play a game to see if I could stay in first and just let my lead distance increase enough to not have to stop a…

This is actually how you're supposed to drive in traffic.

Give more space to the car in front of you and try to stay at a constant speed. You will see truckers do this a lot.

It also is much better for your car and mental health. You don't need to accelerate to a complete stop over and over.

I do this every time I'm in very bad traffic (Think inching along and coming to a complete stop multiple times).

However about 10% of the time I get some idiot behind me that thinks that I'm going to slow so they speed around me just to come to a complete stop 2 seconds later.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by mlrtime »

AngryData wrote: post #575
ilikehurdles wrote: post #205

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Auto margins are ridiculously thin, and if a manufacturer can trim 17 cents off a car’s manufacturing cost by removing a button, they usually will.

Their margins being thin is a matter of perspective. Most farms are running 1% profit margins on average and have massive variations in yield that auto production lacks.

Most farmers (who have been farming for years) are extremely land rich. Everything goes to pay for land that continues to appreciate.

source: came from a farming family. All income goes back into the farm and we continually buy new circles.

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Post by seattle_spring »

FireBeyond wrote: post #598
troyvit wrote: post #418

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I have to agree, at least to a point. Nine times out of ten a person buying a car doesn't need it right away. Therefore if they don't like the mark-up they can just come back later when the market changes. If everybody did that then demand would go down and then so would the mark-up.

What? Apparently car accidents aren’t a thing near you. “Nine times out of ten” is a wholly made up and entirely inaccurate estimation. “Sure, someone just totaled my car but I can “just come back later when the market changes”.”

There are plenty of great vehicles to buy that don't have a $25k markup.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by mytydev »

redwasp wrote: post #458
mytydev wrote: post #416

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The report specifically says Tesla is not the worst btw

Surprising, since Mozilla's article( https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/article... ) does place them dead last, right behind Nissan. Granted, it'll be hard not to buy a car on that list!

Yeah, that's interesting and it seems the report contradicts itself. They are indeed last on the list referenced, but when diving into their details for Tesla it says "So, how is Tesla at privacy? Well, they aren't the worst car company we reviewed"

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by grvdrm »

neuralRiot wrote: post #574
ravenstine wrote: post #502

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Yeah, I certainly wouldn't knock those who love driving manual. Part of why I like riding my motorcycle is that it's a manual. But in LA traffic, I'd rather drive an automatic so I can put my brain into "autopilot" while playing an audiobook rather than have to constantly be shifting by hand. It irks me how so many manual-lovers have this superiority complex over people who just want a car that will get them from A t…

I’ve driven manual my whole car life and in heavy US traffic. When you get accustomed, your brain goes into “auto-pilot” and does the shifting too anyway.

Yep, likewise. It’s not the burden that people like to describe.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by grvdrm »

mlrtime wrote: post #623
foxyv wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the exact reason I bought an automatic. I had a 1994 BMW 318is that I loved, but I spent probably a couple thousand hours on the 91 freeway in southern California pushing the clutch in and out. The BMW "sporty" clutch was a leg workout and a half. The return spring was super stiff. Sometimes I would play a game to see if I could stay in first and just let my lead distance increase enough to not have to stop a…

This is actually how you're supposed to drive in traffic. Give more space to the car in front of you and try to stay at a constant speed. You will see truckers do this a lot. It also is much better for your car and mental health. You don't need to accelerate to a complete stop over and over. I do this every time I'm in very bad traffic (Think inching along and coming to a complete stop multiple times). However about…

I love crawling in traffic in 1st. Totally agree.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by tim333 »

tristor wrote: post #132

Of all the horrible things go on with privacy these days, this is the one I hate the most. I’m a “car guy”, but not the sort that obsesses over old cars (although I do love 60s and 80s cars). I like new tech, I like the advances in engineering we’ve made in new vehicles, I like EVs even. Nonetheless I’ve been in the market for a new car for months and haven’t bought because it’s hard to find any cars that meet my req…

Theres something to be said for old bangers. I had a 31 year old mx5 and now a 13 year old E class. They don't have the touch screen sillyness and tend to be much cheaper to run if you include depreciation. You have to get stuff fixed about once a year with those.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by hed »

dangus wrote: post #426
EricE wrote: post #390

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"A reminder that driving isn’t a right" It is in America. Our constitution constrains the government, it doesn't grant us rights - we already have them as human beings. I can't imagine living under a cynical government that has that equation flipped but obviously you've been conditioned to accept it.

That’s just plain factually incorrect. You aren’t allowed to drive unless you pass a written and driving test in all 50 states, with only a few exceptions like agricultural use. The default state of your rights in the USA is that you are not allowed to drive. It is effectively an additive privilege that you have to go out of your way to obtain. The constitution doesn’t restrict the government’s ability to regulate th…

This is only true for driving on public roads.
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