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So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by johnnyanmac »

reactordev wrote: post #11
kemayo wrote: post #6

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon, so we should be on the lookout for an alternative over the next five years. Discord's fine for what it is, but it's also a fundamentally different thing than social media or forums or a support-site. Projects that try to funnel everything onto Discord are (a) losing anyone who thinks joining an 800 person chatroom doesn't sound fun,…

Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

Common internet fact: people can and will use the most popular platform for features it was actively not designed for. Hence, dozens long twitter rants that should have been a blog, imageboards being used for news, and closed off chatrooms being used to more or less house arcane knowledge, some documented and some not.

Not much you can do there.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by RamenJunkie_ »

vGPU wrote: post #74

I agree with the writer. When Apollo got shut down, my usage of Reddit died with it. The occasional skim on BuildaPCsales aside, it’s utility has rapidly approached zero for me, and the old subs that I used to browse have taken a noticeable dive in quality to the point where it’s not worth my time to read them. The same with twitter. I tried twitter for 2-3 months. I found the quality of almost the entire user base t…

Same here. some 600k+ Karma and like 13 years on the platform and I completely quit when Baconreader broke.

I added /r/gamedeals and /r/gamebundles and the Fortnite ststus bot to my RSS reader and that's all I follow at all now.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by johnnyanmac »

browningstreet wrote: post #46

I often think about social media like this: I’m a quiet cafe and empty restaurant kind of guy. I hike trails and go to the gym at early hours because the vibe is right. Social media is like the mall, or a stadium. Some people like going there, and do so often. They’re excited to see Taylor Swift with 80K other people. They go to the mall early on a weekday for a sneaker drop. I don’t get it but c’est la vie. That’s t…

Guess we have opposite problems. Most places around me are quiet and I want something inbetwee a library and a night club. Just a semi-social place to make friends.

Sadly the internet polarizes that as well. Sometimes Discord is the only place for smaller kinds of media. otherwise you have ghost towns of forums where maybe you get one response back when talking about a certain work. Usually none

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by deprecative »

gaws wrote: post #133
deprecative wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IRC is dead in any meaningful way, though. It's a decent technology that's lost to services with all those essential features. We also used to have great conversations while riding bikes with our friends when we were kids. Does that mean employers would be served to hold all of their meetings on bikes?

> IRC is dead in any meaningful way False. IRC is still alive and kicking.

> IRC is dead in any meaningful way

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by johnnyanmac »

RaisingSpear wrote: post #22

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon Discord was enshittified years ago. It's just that nothing really changed recently, unlike Twitter/Reddit, so it's not making the news. You've got a platform that's completely inaccessible without an account. Acquiring an account often requires handing over a mobile number. And Discord can then ban you arbitrarily, despite never post…

> Acquiring an account often requires handing over a mobile number.

depends on the server. I've only ran into telephone verifications on one server. But I've made 3 accounts with no more issue than HN or Reddit.

>And that doesn't cover the five minute rigamarole of logging in

I'm not sure I've ever been captcha'd on Discord. Is this a recent thing?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by johnnyanmac »

gaws wrote: post #136
seanhunter wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Goodness knows you can validly critise discord for any number of reasons but the time taken to log in on an untrusted device isn't really one that resonates with me. I have done this recently and the process took all of 5 seconds. Here's the process if you have a phone and want to do it fast: 1. Click login on discord on the untrusted device. It shows a qr code next to the credentials box. 2. Log in on phone (which f…

Has anyone figured out a way to remove the phone number attached to an account?

Does the official instructions not work? https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/4413460214807-...

Never attached a number so can't test myself.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by dottjt »

nunez wrote: post #101
dottjt wrote: post #54

Personally, I love the value of Reddit. How I see it is that it's a single account which allows me access to an infinite number of communities for me to ask questions about. Interested in fishing? Ask about it in the fishing subreddit. Interested in Chinese Medicine? Ask about it in the Chinese Medicine subreddit. I absolutely love it. It's like interactive Google.

That was the case before many of the moderators of those communities left in protest of Reddit's API changes. Whether that will stay the case remains to be seen.

I'm not sure how the moderators are relevant. The communities still exist. The moderator isn't the community itself.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by johnnyanmac »

lapinot wrote: post #99
jakecopp wrote: post #70

> I have a Mastodon account, but I don't love it, for the same reasons I didn't like Twitter. In addition, I think that way of consuming content is generally like watching mainstream TV or listening to radio with ads. You're letting a bunch of people who aren't really that important to you, or qualified to do the job, be the content curators for you. Isn't that the opposite of Mastodon? The _default_ Mastodon home fe…

OP doesn't like mastodon for the same reasons [they] didn't like Twitter . That would be mostly: - "It's not really possible to use Twitter without at least a little bit of doomscrolling" - "I think that the core concept of a "tweet" is fundamentally unhealthy, because by design it promotes angry and extreme content." - "Most users don't understand that by "dunking" on someone, they are actually promoting the content…

>You're letting a bunch of people who aren't really that important to you, or qualified to do the job, be the content curators for you.

isn't that most social media? If you want traditional news, you subscribe to a news site. if you want experts you need to be in those respective communities. Expecting journalists or domain experts to freely share quality information on an informal platform isn't impossible, but shouldn't be expected. pseudoanonymous discussion shouldn't be your primary source for most "real" content and issues.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by johnnyanmac »

deprecative wrote: post #73
callroomlamp wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lemmy experience is quite satisfying. Took a moment to get used to the fediverse especially with multiple duplicate communities. Yet find myself doomscrolling much less and being more satisfied than Reddit. Still a small community though…

I cannot understand why anyone would want to deal with fediverse anything. I don't want thirty places with five to twenty people that post the same few things. I want one with hundreds or thousands or more. If I want a cozy social area I'd just as soon start a group text chat. It's just the worst of every experience.

>I cannot understand why anyone would want to deal with fediverse anything.

for reassurance and redundancy. People going rouge or sites being compromised by greed or other issues are inevitable. But if one server goes down (literally or figuratively), you got 29 other servers to lean on, and it makes adding a new 30th easier.

>I want one with hundreds or thousands or more

that's still possible. Meta's new "Threads" may in fact be that. But the issue of how the internet is converging towards a few select corporations is an issue not exclusive to the fediverse. Having any kind of new forum in the 2020's overcome the networking effect is a massive feat.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by johnnyanmac »

dottjt wrote: post #147
nunez wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was the case before many of the moderators of those communities left in protest of Reddit's API changes. Whether that will stay the case remains to be seen.

I'm not sure how the moderators are relevant. The communities still exist. The moderator isn't the community itself.

Moderators shape the community. Whether or not that shape sticks after they leave depends a lot on the community and what rules they keep/enforce.

for example, r/fishing bans memes. What if mod A leaves and mod B allows memes? Experience says that memes proceed to take over r/fishing anf the community tone changes. Sure, r/fishing "exists", but does it exist for the reasons you subscribed?

You can even use HN as a whole here. How much do you think the tone of HN would change if Dang dissapeared tomorrow?

That's the issue that was understated during these protests. Moderation is thankless work and even without drama it can burn one out.

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